EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Having difficulty installing or running EHM? Having trouble purchasing the game through Steam? Unable to get an addon or patch to work correctly? This is the place to ask for help! Please note that this is purely unofficial support offered by the TBL community.
Forum rules
Data Editing Forum: Editing the game, databases or saved games. Home of the EHM Editor and the EHM Assistant.

Game Add-ons Forum: Database projects, graphics and sounds. Any discussion which does not relate to editing databases or saved games.

Game Knowledge Discussion: Attributes, coaching, drafting, scouting, tactics and training/practice.

Rosters Forum: Discussion relating to all database and roster projects for Eastside Hockey Manager.

Technical Support: Difficulties, crashes and errors when installing or running the game (and nothing else). Any issues relating to the TBL Rosters must be posted in the TBL Rosters forum. Questions about how to install add-ons must be posted in the Game Add-ons Forum.

General EHM Chat: Anything relating to Eastside Hockey Manager 2004 / 2005 / 2007 / 1 which does not fall within any of the other forums.

Please carry out a forum search before you start a new thread.
jon.
Learning to skate
Posts: 3
Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:46 am

EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by jon. »

My game keeps crashing between June 29 and 30 of my very first season. On June 28 it goes through the "Game Data Update" fine, but once the 29th roles around and I click "Continue" I am prompted with another "Game Data Update". It is then that a box pops up and tells me "ehm2007.exe" has stopped working and has to be closed.

I started this season brand new with Manimal v4.2 with the CSD Patch applied, starting at the beginning of the 2011-12 season.

I really don't know what to do, but I still have my order ID # available, so I can uninstall and unlicense if need be.

Thanks in advance for any help!
jon.
Learning to skate
Posts: 3
Joined: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:46 am

Re: Game Crash

Post by jon. »

Oops! I probably should have read the CDS Patch FAQ thread first.

Problem fixed!
User avatar
philou21
The Great One
Posts: 9406
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:15 pm
Custom Rank: 24 cups!!!
Favourite Team: Colorado Avalanche
Location: Trois-Rivières, Québec

Re: Game Crash

Post by philou21 »

We have a nice search tool bar for that. Thanks for using next time you got a problem. ;)
Jacob.B92
Junior League
Posts: 18
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:21 am

EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by Jacob.B92 »

Hey, desperate for help here.

After the first season with NYI in NHL the game crashes. First i get an error, it says something like.. 3.0.4 russian_super.cpp and 3.0.4 fin_suomi.cpp and then i just click OK. But when i press continue to move forward the game crashes.

When I started the game i used CSD-patch and set the year to 2012 (Used Manimal 5.0 rosters).

Everything worked fine until now, can you guys please help me, have a really fun save going on and it would be a shame if I couldn't continue with it. :cry:
User avatar
Alessandro
Olympic Gold
Posts: 2865
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:54 pm
Custom Rank: TBL Rosters Man
Favourite Team: Team Russia
WHL Team: Calgary Flames

Re: Crash after first season (June 30th)

Post by Alessandro »

I guess you didn't use the CSD patch in the correct way. I simmed through the third season without any problem of any kind.
Jacob.B92
Junior League
Posts: 18
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:21 am

Re: Crash after first season (June 30th)

Post by Jacob.B92 »

Seems like it, but is it possible to fix it?

Do I have to start the game with the CSD-patch EVERY time I reload the game during the first season?
Lets say I forgot to start the game with the CSD-patch in the middle of the season.. If i then start the game later with the patch and pass the June 30th, will that make it crash anyway because I forgot to use the patch at one time?

And I have one more problem, the CPU teams in NHL (maybe in other leagues aswell) don't re-sign their players. All players with outgoing contracts will be Free Agents after the first season. Among them are Jonathan Quick and more really good players, I'm pretty sure LA would like to re-sign him!
User avatar
CeeBee
All-Star
Posts: 1140
Joined: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:38 pm
Location: The old guy in Chase BC Canada

Re: Crash after first season (June 30th)

Post by CeeBee »

If you missed using the patch even once your game is hooped unless you have a save from before the cutoff date(Feb 1) It gives 3 rules right on the patch in bolded letters!
use this patch when you want to start a new game or reload a game where you have not simmed beyond:
1July at end of season 1 (Russia/Finland)
1February of season 1 ( all other leagues)
DO NOT use the patch if reloading game after July 1
I'm not to the end of season 1 yet so I will see what goes on with the UFA's. Sorry about the game for you but you gotta read the instructs [-X ;)

p.s. what I do when I start a new game is move the patch shortcut on my desktop right out into the open so I can't miss it when I load a game. When I am past Feb 1 I put the shortcut back in it's place and then I know I don't need it without thinking too much. :thup:
Jacob.B92
Junior League
Posts: 18
Joined: Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:21 am

Re: Crash after first season (June 30th)

Post by Jacob.B92 »

darn, that sucks..

Well I started a new game and will simulate to the exact same date to see if the CPU still release all players with outgoing contracts.That is a major problem if it happens all the time!
Komets
Junior League
Posts: 11
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:01 am

Crash on certain date

Post by Komets »

My 2007 game keeps crashing on March 25th. I've tried to sim past it on vacation, play the game, sim normal. Nothing seems to work. I also resaved it under a new name. When I started my game, I used the CSD patch because I am using Manimal's lastest roster update. If anybody knows how to fix this that would be great! :-p
Last edited by Komets on Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Crash on certain date

Post by archibalduk »

It is because you haven't loaded the CSD Patch each time you reloaded your saved game. Please take a look at the first post in his thread: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 117&t=9256 - This explains for how long you should continue using the Patch when reloading saved games.
Komets
Junior League
Posts: 11
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:01 am

Re: Crash on certain date

Post by Komets »

I load my game with the CSD Patch every time
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: Crash on certain date

Post by archibalduk »

It gets confusing when you edit your first post by completely removing your previous post. First you said 28th Feb and now you're saying 25th March. How come you're now 26 days further into the game? What have you done differently? Is this the same saved game or a new game? :dunno:

The cause of the crash is that the CSD Patch was not applied on one occasion when you reloaded the game. Even forgetting the Patch once can cause the saved game to be irreparably damaged. I'm going to merge this thread into another thread as we have multiple threads on the same issue.
Komets
Junior League
Posts: 11
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:01 am

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by Komets »

I got past the 28th date issue. But the way I think I got past is not loading it with the CSD Patch :\ . I just started up a new game. I'll make sure I use the CSD patch now!
ollybecks
Junior League
Posts: 11
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:53 am

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by ollybecks »

For example if im using the CSD patch and i have selected all leagues as Enhanced but i use a team from the Great Britain ELITE league, when do i have to use the CSD patch and when do i have to stop using it?
User avatar
batdad
The Great One
Posts: 12616
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:46 pm
Custom Rank: Mr Technology
Favourite Team: Syracuse Bulldogs.
Location: Look behind you, you peon

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by batdad »

Reading tells all. Read the read me file.
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by archibalduk »

It doesn't matter which league you're coaching it. What matters is what leagues you have loaded on Selected/Enhanced. If you have Russia and/or Finland loaded, you need to keep using the patch until 1 July of season 1. If you're ever unsure, check the bold text on the CSD Patch window - it provides a useful reminder.
ollybecks
Junior League
Posts: 11
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:53 am

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by ollybecks »

Then after 1st of July i dont ever have to use CSD patch again to load EHM?
User avatar
batdad
The Great One
Posts: 12616
Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:46 pm
Custom Rank: Mr Technology
Favourite Team: Syracuse Bulldogs.
Location: Look behind you, you peon

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by batdad »

Dude, seriously....>READ THE READ ME FILE, or the thousands of posts on this.
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by archibalduk »

ollybecks wrote:Then after 1st of July i dont ever have to use CSD patch again to load EHM?
That's what it says.
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by archibalduk »

Please note that you must use CSD Patch v1.4 (or higher) if you want to play with a 2013/14 start date.

Patches earlier than v1.4 will crash on 14 February 2014 if you try to use it to start with a 2013/14 start date (you will get a 'v3.0.4 comp_stats.cpp 1752' error). This is because 2013/14 is the first time since releasing the Patch where the Olympics have taken place in the first season (hence why the issue hasn't been encountered with previous start dates).
zbguy
Top Prospect
Posts: 121
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:01 pm

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by zbguy »

I'm at my wits' end here.

I'm attempting to use the CSD patch, but some part of it is not working. No matter how I load it with EHM, the year doesn't change. However, it IS doing something because the game crashes anyway on Oct. 1. (If I run the game without the patch, it runs normally, at least beyond Oct. 1, so what it's doing I don't know.)

I've gone over every instruction to the letter. I'm using 3.0.4. I've tried both 1.4 and 1.5 of the patch. Everything has administrator privileges. I've installed all the recommended files along with it. NOTHING MAKES IT WORK.

The funny thing is earlier this year the patch actually did work, but my hard drive failed and I had to install everything over again. I don't know what, if anything, I'm doing wrong this time around.

Incidentally, I've had slightly more progress with the ArtMoney method (it loads the correct start date), but it too crashes on Oct. 1.

Note: I'm not saving and reloading any games, I'm trying to sim thru Oct. 1 right out of the gate and it still botches.

Is there anything I can do to help you figure out what the problem is? Any files I can show you?
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by archibalduk »

As I was reading the first couple of paragraphs of your post I was thinking the solution would be to use the ArtMoney method, but it's clear you've already tried that. I've never been able to figure out why a small number of users can't get the patch to work correctly and why ArtMoney works instead. There has to be something about the system's environment that is causing the issue. Regardless of your lack of success so far, I'm thinking the ArtMoney method is the way to go for you. If the Patch isn't changing the start date correctly then I'd avoid using it and rely on ArtMoney instead.

The 1 October crash you're encountering is very surprising given that 1) the ArtMoney method is changing your date okay and 2) you're trying to sim past 1 Oct immediately on starting the game (as I think you probably already know, usually the cause of the crash is when users forget to apply the patch when reloading). The 1 October crash relates to the IIHF U-20 Championships.

I'm not sure what to suggest with this issue because what you've described should work. You're using ArtMoney, you're simming immediately after loading, you're using admin privileges and you're using v3.0.4. That ticks all of the boxes in terms of diagnosing issues. I don't know if this will ultimately lead to a solution, but could you tell me the following please:

1) What DB are you using? Have you made any modifications at all? Could you try using an alternative DB (if you're using the current version of the TBL Rosters then try using a previous version e.g. v5.1).

2) Have you made any modifications to your exe or are you trying to use the League Rules Super Patch?

3) What start year are you using? If you're using 2013, try using 2012.

4) When you apply ArtMoney and your EHM game has been created, could you post a screenshot of the list of offsets and values displayed in ArtMoney's window?
zbguy
Top Prospect
Posts: 121
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:01 pm

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by zbguy »

1) For testing purposes, I'm using the vanilla DB.
2) I have not made any modifications aside from the 3.0.4 patch.
3) I originally tried 2021, but have also tried 2013. 2012 doesn't work either.
4) Here's what the offsets looked like after starting the 2012 game:

Image
zbguy
Top Prospect
Posts: 121
Joined: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:01 pm

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by zbguy »

Hi Archibald, have you had a chance to look at the error? Is there anything else I can do to help figure out what the issue is? Or am I boned?
User avatar
archibalduk
TBL Admin Team
Posts: 20373
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:44 pm
Custom Rank: Seaside + Fruit Juice Mode
Favourite Team: Guildford (EPL) / Invicta (NIHL)
Location: United Kingdom
Contact:

Re: EHM 2007 crashes on a certain date with the CSD Patch

Post by archibalduk »

Sorry, I saw your message the other day and had meant to respond at a later point - but forgot because it was no longer flagged as unread.

Try this:

1) Follow the usual ArtMoney method.
2) Before you click on OK on the League Select Screen (i.e. the point just before EHM starts creating the game): Load the CSD Patch and click on the Apply Patch Only button.
3) Click on OK on the League Select Screen to start creating your game. Then try simming through to October.
Post Reply