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Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:50 pm

Thanks a lot!

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:00 pm

I spotted that start date issue as well, Manimal. Good eye! It's one of those things that we get so used to doing one way with the NHL challenges that we didn't even think of it for this junior challenge.

As for the import draft, I'm thinking we should leave those picks as untradeable. It's something that could leave us open to abuse. I've played junior teams a couple times and I've seen some teams not even use their picks in the import draft. Many of the players drafted in the import draft never even make it over to Canadian juniors. I'm afraid people are just going to toss those picks in there to help pad a trade deal.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:14 pm

No import draft trading.

You knew I was gonna say that didn't you...

Sorry, but what bruins said above is true...

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:23 pm

No problem. I just wanted to know. Hopefully I can snag myself an european. Maybe a fellow Swede! That would be fun

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:32 pm

Here's a tip, if you look at the player's info and they say "Wants to play Major Junoir" then you're likely be able to sign him, if all it says is "Happy to stay at the team"....good luck.

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:38 pm

Why is it that I have rights to players that are too old to play in the league? It doesn't make sense.

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:44 pm

Can you provide a screen shot? or is this around the end of the season? If they are too old it might also be from the roster updates. And you can also just release them to get your self under 50...Again I haven't started my challenge yet I'm at work.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:49 pm

I have not looked yet...so I dunno. Is it 20 year olds? Cause they are just old men in the league, and most will get kept by their NHL teams and put in AHL so no issues.

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:51 pm

yup that's true you are allowed 3 overagers, those that are kept by the NHL team I release thier rights.

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:56 pm

I am actually referring to 21-year olds. We start with the rights to a couple of players born in 1985 when we are only allowed three 86-borns. I released them and got under the amount of 55 that we are allowed to carry

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:56 pm

I've got 1 overager among my unsigned prospects but nobody that is too old to play in the league. When a player is designated as an Overager it doesn't mean they're too old to play in the league. They're just restricted. Teams are only allowed 3 overage players on their roster. They're also only allowed 2 foreign players on their roster but the guidelines on that seem to be a little shaky. I guess US born players don't count as foreign. I'm also not sure which other countries don't count against that. I played a game using the Create A Star players that Calv released. I had some of our British TBLers on my team and it didn't seem to count them as foreign. Maybe somebody can clarify how the game figures all of this out?

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:00 pm

Another question that I'd like answered (even if it is ahead of time) We are allowed to sign two FA's after the season. I believe I read somewhere earlier that we weren't allowed to sign them from other regions, such as a released WHL-player. I do not see anything of this in the rules, did you leave that out or is it an in-game rule?

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:08 pm

to bruins72. American players do not count as foreign. I think foreign players are classified as non-NA...but that wouldn't explain the British players.

to Manimal. I'm fairly certain it is not an in game rule. If it is a WHL or OHL release player you should be able to sign him.

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:24 pm

I have noted a quirk about the trading regulations. We are not allowed to start trading until Sep.30. That deadline is not needed since there is a no trade period between Aug.25 and Dec 19!

Also I have seen a team sign a 85-born player. If that is possible then why are there a regulation on the amount of 86's we're allowed to dress?

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:26 pm

I think you're reading that wrong the first trading period is from Aug 25th to Dec. 19th

I'm not sure about the 85-born player, I think I've seen it happen, they won't play it just seems to be a bit of a quirk.

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:48 pm

Loosie wrote:I think you're reading that wrong the first trading period is from Aug 25th to Dec. 19th

No, it's not.

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:50 pm

batdad wrote:No import draft trading. You knew I was gonna say that didn't you...

Sorry, but what bruins said above is true...

I went to check what draft picks I have and realised that I can only trade QMJHL selection picks and not Import picks so the rule is unnecessary

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:05 pm

I forgot to un-check open try-outs so a bunch of guys wanted to join us. Thing is, some of them are 24 years old! Big flaw in the game, I must say.

Loosie · Post by **Loosie** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:31 pm

Manimal wrote:
Loosie wrote:I think you're reading that wrong the first trading period is from Aug 25th to Dec. 19th

No, it's not.

My apologies

QMJHL website wrote:Trades
3 - Periods
June, 2008 - Entry Draft
From August 1st to September 2, 2008 (noon)
From December 20, 2008 to January 8, 2009

Do we want to change the trade rules to reflect this?

Post by **batdad** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:50 pm

1. USA players are not imports.
2. I am not sure on the trading period rules for CHL...I really did not look into those at all. Sorry....but in real life they are making trades all the time, up to Xmas break so I assumed it would be the same in the game..which is why I said no trades to Sep 30. So to me the no trade to sep 30th is needed.
3. Heh--open tryouts having old guys come out. Funny...EHM bug I guess, never seen that before in the WHL when I played it.
4. Surprised you cannot deal Import picks...they do in real life. But good if you cannot...still leaving the rule in, just to be sure. I have not checked it out yet, and its been awhile since I played WHL.
5. I am surprised that they allow trading in real life over Xmas. Weird.

Anyway to sum:

1. No FA's first season
2. No trading to Sep 30th, even if the no trade period is longer in the game, and you cannot trade then...doubled up on that maybe, but just leave it as it is.
3. No trading import picks.
4. Must follow the standard entry draft trading rules...

Bla bla bla bla...I go on and on.

Remember, this is the first one, so bound to be some odd things we do not know about as we don't know everything...There I admitted it...everyone happy?

Best of luck. Bottom guiding line is play the game the way a real life GM would...I don't see any CHL teams making 2000 trades before the season starts, nor do I see them trading all their prospects for picks, nor do I see them trading all their picks for players....So just be careful...and smart.

Post by **Manimal** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:04 pm

batdad wrote:1. USA players are not imports.
2. I am not sure on the trading period rules for CHL...I really did not look into those at all. Sorry....but in real life they are making trades all the time, up to Xmas break so I assumed it would be the same in the game..which is why I said no trades to Sep 30. So to me the no trade to sep 30th is needed.
3. Heh--open tryouts having old guys come out. Funny...EHM bug I guess, never seen that before in the WHL when I played it.
4. Surprised you cannot deal Import picks...they do in real life. But good if you cannot...still leaving the rule in, just to be sure. I have not checked it out yet, and its been awhile since I played WHL.
5. I am surprised that they allow trading in real life over Xmas. Weird.

Anyway to sum:

1. No FA's first season
2. No trading to Sep 30th, even if the no trade period is longer in the game, and you cannot trade then...doubled up on that maybe, but just leave it as it is.
3. No trading import picks.
4. Must follow the standard entry draft trading rules...

Bla bla bla bla...I go on and on.

Remember, this is the first one, so bound to be some odd things we do not know about as we don't know everything...There I admitted it...everyone happy?

Best of luck. Bottom guiding line is play the game the way a real life GM would...I don't see any CHL teams making 2000 trades before the season starts, nor do I see them trading all their prospects for picks, nor do I see them trading all their picks for players....So just be careful...and smart.

Thanks for clearing things up.
It might seem like I'm trying to find loopholes in the game, but I really just want it to be like IRL. And I don't want any misunderstanding on the rules. It would be a real bummer to play a whole season just to find out I missed some minor regulation

Post by **archibalduk** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:09 pm

bruins72 wrote:I'm also not sure which other countries don't count against that. I played a game using the Create A Star players that Calv released. I had some of our British TBLers on my team and it didn't seem to count them as foreign. Maybe somebody can clarify how the game figures all of this out?

Could it be that Nick set those Brits to have a Canadian second nationality? That would certainly be a good way to get British Create-A-Stars to play in North America.

Manimal wrote:Another question that I'd like answered (even if it is ahead of time) We are allowed to sign two FA's after the season. I believe I read somewhere earlier that we weren't allowed to sign them from other regions, such as a released WHL-player. I do not see anything of this in the rules, did you leave that out or is it an in-game rule?

Yeah, we left that rule out. You may sign players from other regions as you so choose. Whilst this means it's not as realistic as real life, it makes things simpler for users unfamiliar with the Canadian leagues (or even Canadian geography!) and it also keeps our first Canadian Challenge relatively simple. Maybe it's something to think about for future Challenges - but not this one.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:14 pm

archibalduk wrote:
bruins72 wrote:I'm also not sure which other countries don't count against that. I played a game using the Create A Star players that Calv released. I had some of our British TBLers on my team and it didn't seem to count them as foreign. Maybe somebody can clarify how the game figures all of this out?
Could it be that Nick set those Brits to have a Canadian second nationality? That would certainly be a good way to get British Create-A-Stars to play in North America.

Maybe that was the case. One of these days I'll have to go back and check.

Post by **joehelmer** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:47 pm

Can we sign the players that are FAs and we got the rights for?

Post by **batdad** » Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:28 pm

Yep..if they are in your unsigned prospects..go ahead.