EHM The Blue Line

archibalduk wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:46 pm NHL: Done but I need to slightly adjust the playoff format to mirror real life.
WHA: Done using the 73/74 structure as requested.
AHL: Done but with a 62 GP schedule instead of a 76 GP schedule. I'm going to try to create the 76 GP schedule by hand (as with the NAHL, I cannot source any real life schedule details for the AHL).
NAHL: Done but with a 70 GP schedule rather than 74 GP (I think this is the best we're going to get as it's not clear how a 74 GP schedule would work and there's no details online).
SHL: Done
Summit Series: Done but I haven't yet sussed out how to get the Skip Random Years setting to work.

Current politics events aside, what about Soviet league ? It should be relative easy from playing format wise to implement it in editor, since it was 10 teams, and 36 games, with no playoffs.

https://www.hockeyarchives.info/URSS1975.htm

Filip Croatia wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:02 pm what about Soviet league ?

It's already in the DB and playable (10 teams, 54 game schedule, no playoffs)

nino33 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:42 pm It's already in the DB and playable (10 teams, 54 game schedule, no playoffs)

nino33 wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:35 am

archibalduk wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:10 pm If you'd rather not have this then I can just omit it from the database

Yes please to omitting the summit series

No problem - will do!

nino33 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:42 pm

Filip Croatia wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:02 pm what about Soviet league ?

It's already in the DB and playable (10 teams, 54 game schedule, no playoffs)

Would you like me to drop the schedule down to 36 GP or left at 54 GP?

archibalduk wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 4:05 pm Would you like me to drop the schedule down to 36 GP or left at 54 GP?

Leave it at 54 GP, thank you

I've updated the AHL with an 80 GP schedule taken from the real life 1979/80 IHL schedule (thanks Nino!) and I've also completed the IHL with a 70 GP schedule. They're not 100% the same as the real life leagues (both of which had a 76 GP schedule) but it's near enough. Now on to the CHL - I just need to find a half decent schedule template for an eight team league split into two divisions with approx. 78 GP.

NHL: Done but I need to slightly adjust the playoff format to mirror real life.
WHA: Done using the 73/74 structure as requested.
AHL: Done with an 80 GP schedule.
IHL: Done with a 70 GP schedule.
NAHL: Done but with a 70 GP schedule rather than 74 GP (I think this is the best we're going to get as it's not clear how a 74 GP schedule would work and there's no details online).
SHL: Done

To do:
- CHL
- OHL / QMJHL / WHL / Memorial Cup
- Canada Cup
- Olympics
- World Championships

FYI the screenshots below were taken using the Test Leagues function in EHM which disables most of the sim engine in order to allow us to quickly test sim league structures. So the standings below won't be indicative of how the DB will run when playing the game normally.

FYI there are two Binghamton Dusters teams in the DB. One of them will need to be renamed/deleted.

Latest update in red below. On to the international tournaments now!

NHL: Done but I need to slightly adjust the playoff format to mirror real life.
WHA: Done using the 73/74 structure as requested.
AHL: Done with an 80 GP schedule.
CHL: Done but the schedule needs some tidying-up as there's too many Fri-Sat-Sun back to back games.
IHL: Done with a 70 GP schedule.
NAHL: Done but with a 70 GP schedule rather than 74 GP (I think this is the best we're going to get as it's not clear how a 74 GP schedule would work and there's no details online).
SHL: Done

To do:
- OHL / QMJHL / WHL / Memorial Cup (for double-checking re a possible issue with Memorial Cup scheduling).
- Canada Cup
- Olympics
- World Championships

FYI the screenshots below were taken using the Test Leagues function in EHM which disables most of the sim engine in order to allow us to quickly test sim league structures. So the standings below won't be indicative of how the DB will run when playing the game normally.

Thanks so much for everything Arch! Things are looking great!

archibalduk wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 1:02 pmFYI there are two Binghamton Dusters teams in the DB. One of them will need to be renamed/deleted.

Is there a way to delete a team? I'm not sure how. I tried by being on the Clubs tab and clicking on the team in the list and then clicking Delete Item, but I get an error message saying "Unable to remove any rows (Clubs)"

Annoyingly there's no way in Editor v1 to delete clubs. The best thing to do is to give it some placeholder name and set it as inactive. Then set it as another club when you next need a new club in the DB.

Is it possible with editor to pre-set soviet club tour of NHL ? If not, then Soviet clubs should get their reputation bumped so that NHL teams will accept invitations for ehxibithion games.

Filip Croatia wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:56 pm Is it possible with editor to pre-set soviet club tour of NHL ?

It's being looked into

Latest update in red below:

North America
NHL: Done but I need to slightly adjust the playoff format to mirror real life.
WHA: Done using the 73/74 structure as requested.
AHL: Done with an 80 GP schedule.
CHL: Done but the schedule needs some tidying-up as there's too many Fri-Sat-Sun back to back games.
IHL: Done with a 70 GP schedule.
NAHL: Done but with a 70 GP schedule rather than 74 GP (I think this is the best we're going to get as it's not clear how a 74 GP schedule would work and there's no details online).
SHL: Done

Europe
Finnish Elite League: Done with a 10 team / 54 GP league as requested.
Swedish Elite League: Done with a 10 team / 54 GP league as requested.

International
Olympics: Done using a hybrid between the IRL 1976 Olympics and 1977 World Championships structure as requested.
World Championships (aka Group A): Done using the 1976 structure as the IRL 1975 structure was temporary setup in order to expand the size of the competition.
World Championships Div 1 (aka Group B): Done using the 1976 structure as the IRL 1975 structure was temporary setup in order to expand the size of the competition.
World Championships Div 2 (aka Group C): Done using the 1976 structure as the IRL 1975 structure was temporary setup in order to expand the size of the competition.

To do:
- OHL / QMJHL / WHL / Memorial Cup (for double-checking re a possible issue with Memorial Cup scheduling).
- Canada Cup
- Pre season exhibition tournament between NHL, WHA and Soviet teams per Filip Croatia's suggestion.

nino33 - I think the to-do list above is the extent of the remaining leagues you'd like added/fixed for this release of the database but let me know if I'm missing any. I know there's a few other leagues you're thinking about for a future subsequent release but not for this upcoming release - so I won't do those ones for now (e.g. former Czechoslovakia).

The Canada Cup is now up and running.

Filip Croatia wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:56 pm Is it possible with editor to pre-set soviet club tour of NHL ? If not, then Soviet clubs should get their reputation bumped so that NHL teams will accept invitations for ehxibithion games.

nino33 - there are two ways we can setup the above: (1) The reigning champions of the NHL, WHA and Russian Elite compete in a three team pre-season tournament; or (2) We pre-set a number of NHL, WHA and Russian teams who will compete in the tournament each pre-season. The advantage of (1) is that the team line-up will change each season (but we can only bring-in the champion from each league - I can't see a way of being able to bring in additional teams dynamically). The advantage of (2) is that we can make it a larger tournament (but it'll be the same teams each season). Let me know which you would prefer.

archibalduk wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:42 pm The Canada Cup is now up and running.

archibalduk wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:42 pm nino33 - there are two ways we can setup the above: (1) The reigning champions of the NHL, WHA and Russian Elite compete in a three team pre-season tournament; or (2) We pre-set a number of NHL, WHA and Russian teams who will compete in the tournament each pre-season. The advantage of (1) is that the team line-up will change each season (but we can only bring-in the champion from each league - I can't see a way of being able to bring in additional teams dynamically). The advantage of (2) is that we can make it a larger tournament (but it'll be the same teams each season). Let me know which you would prefer.

Just wondering, does it have to occur every year? Can it be variable/periodic?

nino33 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:39 pmJust wondering, does it have to occur every year? Can it be variable/periodic?

Off the top of my head, it can be either annual or every four years. In addition, there's a flag that allows annual or four yearly occurrences to be randomly skipped (e.g. 1974, 1975, 1977, 1979, 1980 or 1974, 1978, 1986, 1990, etc).

archibalduk - Does the Canada Cup overlap the NHL preseason at all? If Super Series exhibition games occur during preseason, I wouldn't want then to conflict with the Canada Cup

I mirrored the IRL 1976 Canada Cup dates, so it runs from early to mid September. I was thinking the Super Series could run during mid to late August to avoid a conflict.

Hi Arch

For the Super Series idea, I don't like the options we have! HaHa
For now lets put the idea of NHL/WHA exhibitions with international teams on the "maybe in the future" list (along with the Czech/Slovak league and the Izvestia tournament)

With some things I really don't think I can effectively know or fine tune what I think or want right now. I need to familiarize/refamiliarize myself with DB leagues/tournaments. When I get the 3K players I'm working on added to the edited database you're working on, I intend to spend time doing initial playtesting and doing this will make any additional/future editing decisions much easier to make. I'd guess I'm a few weeks away from being ready to import the players (and still months away from a release).


P.S. Always cool seeing Bernie Parent in the banner

Good plan! I'll finish tweaking the Olympics like we discussed and a few other minor points (double-checking a possible Memorial Cup schedule error, etc) and that'll be the structures done. We might then want to think about tweaking some of the basic rules but I expect they could be left as-is if preferred for now.

archibalduk wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:55 pm We might then want to think about tweaking some of the basic rules but I expect they could be left as-is if preferred for now.

I'm very much interested in looking at rules/finances
Over the next week or so I'll refamiliarize myself with what we currently have in the DB and what I'd like to see if possible

All is now done other than tweaking the NHL playoff structure to include the byes for the divisional winners. Unfortunately I couldn't reduce the size of the Olympics as qualification is part hard-coded. So I've left it as a single round robin of 12 teams and the top three are the medal winners per Nino's request.

Edit: A long term test shows that there's a rare occurrence of the OHL and WHL overrunning which means that the Memorial Cup cannot draw an OHL/WHL team. This was the error I encountered a month or so ago but couldn't reproduce. I had it occur for the OHL about 6 times and the WHL about 5 times during my 51 year test sim to the end of June 2025. The fix will be to make the OHL and WHL playoffs finish slightly earlier and to start the Memorial Cup slightly later.

Yugoslavian roster Olympic games 1976

GK : Janez Albreht, Marjan Žbontar

DF : Bogdan Jakopič, Miran Lap, Bojan Kumar, Drago Savić, Darko Beravs, Ivan Ščap

FW : Gorazd Hiti, Janez Petač, Janez Puterle, Franci Žbontar, Edo Hafner, Ignac Kavec, Tomaž Lepša, Miroslav Gojanović, Roman Smolej.

All players are slovenians except Gojanović who is Croat.

Hope this helps

Hi!. Can we expect a update this automn?