Lidas Rosters 2010-11; Mistakes,omissions,tweaks etc.

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:34 pm

djskek wrote:DEL & Deutsche 2. Bundesliga update

EHC München:

EHC München obligated Raphael Kapzan. He remains under contract with EVR Tower Stars, but playing for EHC München to 2011 (2007 in the game)

Krefeld Pinguine:

Krefeld Pinguine have signed a new contract with Michael Endraß and Andreas Driendl until 2013. (2013 --> in game 2009)

What do you mean by obligated? The transfer you are referring to seems like a loan

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:51 pm

Manimal wrote:
djskek wrote:DEL & Deutsche 2. Bundesliga update

EHC München:

EHC München obligated Raphael Kapzan. He remains under contract with EVR Tower Stars, but playing for EHC München to 2011 (2007 in the game)

Krefeld Pinguine:

Krefeld Pinguine have signed a new contract with Michael Endraß and Andreas Driendl until 2013. (2013 --> in game 2009)
What do you mean by obligated? The transfer you are referring to seems like a loan

to sign on by contract of loan

obligated = to sign on, to engage

Sorry, english isn't easy, english isn't fun

Karnage420 · Post by **Karnage420** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:31 pm

craig adams: 120 to 110 - hes a good fourth liner but never a third liner.
aaron asham 132 to 120 - hes a great fourth liner. sometimes a 3rd liner.
chris conner - 95 to 125 - hes proven he can play on the 3rd line in the NHL.
cooke 142 to 135 - hes having a bad season.
crosby 180 to 195 - hes at the top of his game. hard to say he doesnt deserve this.
engelland 90 to 115 - hes clearly proven he can play as a 6th D man. even resigned for 3 years one way.
fleury - 164 to 173(maybe higher) - had a rough start, but mostly cuz of the bad D infront of him. hes playing the best he ever has at the moment.
godard - 110 to 90 - hes useless. a fighter and thats it.
goligoski - 145 to 160 - hard to say this guy wouldnt be a solid #3 anywhere else in the league.
kunitz - 145 to 160. kunitz is clearly a first liner. dropped him to the "1st/2nd"ish rating.
letang 137 to 180. Potential norris trophy winner. Solid D amazing O. and hes a 137?

Martin 145 to 180 - you are telling me we paid 5m a year for a number 4/5 Dman? where do you come up with these ratings? do you even watch hockey?
michalek - 130 to 170 - right. michalek is a #6 defenseman. totally forgot that...

orpik 138 to 169. again, severely underrated.

who did the ratings for the pens defense? its atrocious.

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:35 pm

djskek wrote:
Manimal wrote:
djskek wrote:DEL & Deutsche 2. Bundesliga update

EHC München:

EHC München obligated Raphael Kapzan. He remains under contract with EVR Tower Stars, but playing for EHC München to 2011 (2007 in the game)

Krefeld Pinguine:

Krefeld Pinguine have signed a new contract with Michael Endraß and Andreas Driendl until 2013. (2013 --> in game 2009)
What do you mean by obligated? The transfer you are referring to seems like a loan
to sign on by contract of loan

obligated = to sign on, to engage

Sorry, english isn't easy, english isn't fun

No worries. I have just never heard that term when it comes to hockey. Just imagine if I was to write in german on this forum. I do speak german, but some words would probably seem far-fetched

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:42 am

Manimal wrote:
djskek wrote:
Manimal wrote: What do you mean by obligated? The transfer you are referring to seems like a loan
to sign on by contract of loan

obligated = to sign on, to engage

Sorry, english isn't easy, english isn't fun
No worries. I have just never heard that term when it comes to hockey. Just imagine if I was to write in german on this forum. I do speak german, but some words would probably seem far-fetched

In Germany, some words have several meanings, such as obligated (in german = verpflichten). Sometimes these words are then translated incorrectly into English. But you're right, the word "obligated"is not used in English speaking countries for player purchases or signing contracts. So, that was a short German lesson.

As long as we can communicate with feet and hands, all is well!

letsgoisles39 · Post by **letsgoisles39** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:10 pm

Karnage420 wrote: letang 137 to 180. Potential norris trophy winner. Solid D amazing O. and hes a 137?
Martin 145 to 180 - you are telling me we paid 5m a year for a number 4/5 Dman? where do you come up with these ratings? do you even watch hockey?
michalek - 130 to 170 - right. michalek is a #6 defenseman. totally forgot that...

orpik 138 to 169. again, severely underrated.

who did the ratings for the pens defense? its atrocious.

WOW, that was incredibly rude...he puts a ton of work into all this and your acting like that, if it bothers you that much you dont have to use em.

Karnage420 · Post by **Karnage420** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:33 pm

letsgoisles39 wrote:
Karnage420 wrote: letang 137 to 180. Potential norris trophy winner. Solid D amazing O. and hes a 137?
Martin 145 to 180 - you are telling me we paid 5m a year for a number 4/5 Dman? where do you come up with these ratings? do you even watch hockey?
michalek - 130 to 170 - right. michalek is a #6 defenseman. totally forgot that...

orpik 138 to 169. again, severely underrated.

who did the ratings for the pens defense? its atrocious.
WOW, that was incredibly rude...he puts a ton of work into all this and your acting like that, if it bothers you that much you dont have to use em.

i most def appreciate the effort

but its very confusing when players are severely underrated for no real reason.

jesusrocks150 · Post by **jesusrocks150** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:57 pm

Karnage420 wrote:craig adams: 120 to 110 - hes a good fourth liner but never a third liner.
aaron asham 132 to 120 - hes a great fourth liner. sometimes a 3rd liner.
chris conner - 95 to 125 - hes proven he can play on the 3rd line in the NHL.
cooke 142 to 135 - hes having a bad season.
crosby 180 to 195 - hes at the top of his game. hard to say he doesnt deserve this.
engelland 90 to 115 - hes clearly proven he can play as a 6th D man. even resigned for 3 years one way.
fleury - 164 to 173(maybe higher) - had a rough start, but mostly cuz of the bad D infront of him. hes playing the best he ever has at the moment.
godard - 110 to 90 - hes useless. a fighter and thats it.
goligoski - 145 to 160 - hard to say this guy wouldnt be a solid #3 anywhere else in the league.
kunitz - 145 to 160. kunitz is clearly a first liner. dropped him to the "1st/2nd"ish rating.
letang 137 to 180. Potential norris trophy winner. Solid D amazing O. and hes a 137?
Martin 145 to 180 - you are telling me we paid 5m a year for a number 4/5 Dman? where do you come up with these ratings? do you even watch hockey?
michalek - 130 to 170 - right. michalek is a #6 defenseman. totally forgot that...

orpik 138 to 169. again, severely underrated.

who did the ratings for the pens defense? its atrocious.

I feel your pain! I traded some high end picks in my first season with this roster just to bolster the D!! Maybe an update will be made - They shouldn't even put Godard on the team...he's going to get traded for a late round pick regardless!

Post by **Primis** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:37 am

Karnage420 wrote:but its very confusing when players are severely underrated for no real reason.

Put down the kool-aid and look at this season's stats, and think about this all again.

Michalek? He's a team-worst -6 on the season on a team where even the two main enforcers are +1 and -1.

Martin? His numbers are padded a bit by his offensive stats. Defensively he's not very good out there though if you watch him. Have you ever watched him in NJ or PIT? Yes, everyone said the Pens overpaid for him, just like they said about Michalek. And what happens? The on-ice result proves the theory.

Karnage420 wrote:fleury - 164 to 173(maybe higher) - had a rough start, but mostly cuz of the bad D infront of him. hes playing the best he ever has at the moment.

Wait, but I thought this d corps was awesome and totally underrated? But it's not the goalie's fault either?

Someone's to blame, "weck up to thees". You're wearing some serious black and gold glasses there, pal. Take em' off and join the rest of the hockey world.

Moses Doughty · Post by **Moses Doughty** » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:37 am

Its called an editor, or make your own rosterd

Flying_Buffalo26 · Post by **Flying_Buffalo26** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:39 am

During the Thrashers challenge I drafted a guy named Biggs (Forename) Tyler (Surname) in 2007 (after season 1)
- in the second season there is another prospect called Tyler (Forename) Biggs (Surname), elegible for the 2008 draft. That's the right spelling, but the wrong year, maybe you could correct that.

The only other point I'd like to mention is Bäckström of the Capitals, IMO pinion he is well overrated (I didn't look up his stats in the editor as I am still participating in the challenge). A big reason of his sucess are his linemates Oveckin and Semin. He is a very good playmaker, yes indeed, but I wouldn't like him to be rated as good as a H. Sedin or a Crosby. Just a thought...

Jordan Leopold of the Sabres could as well get a little lift I guess, not performing the way he should...
The comment by tsolkway (spelling?) in the challenge discusion thread is containing some interesting ideas for the young upcoming prospects. I agreee with him on the point that the top draftees of the first 2-3 years should get slighter higher attributes and therefor a higher CA, I guess. It's not realistic to have to let them play for 2 or more years in Juniors until they are somewhere near a roster spot on a productive line....

Anyways, I thank you so much for this update you can't imagine

I hope you can keep up that great work and determination.

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:21 pm

please add extra config file:

# Future transfers
#
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "first name" "second name" "current team name" "new team name" date fee wage contract_length
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Adam" "Mitchell" "Hannover Scorpions" "Adler Mannheim" 29 4 2007 0 0 2

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:01 pm

Flying_Buffalo26 wrote:During the Thrashers challenge I drafted a guy named Biggs (Forename) Tyler (Surname) in 2007 (after season 1)
- in the second season there is another prospect called Tyler (Forename) Biggs (Surname), elegible for the 2008 draft. That's the right spelling, but the wrong year, maybe you could correct that.

I already have. I saw that myself

Flying_Buffalo26 wrote: The only other point I'd like to mention is Bäckström of the Capitals, IMO pinion he is well overrated (I didn't look up his stats in the editor as I am still participating in the challenge). A big reason of his sucess are his linemates Oveckin and Semin. He is a very good playmaker, yes indeed, but I wouldn't like him to be rated as good as a H. Sedin or a Crosby. Just a thought...

Jordan Leopold of the Sabres could as well get a little lift I guess, not performing the way he should...

I will take a look at those players

Flying_Buffalo26 wrote: The comment by tsolkway (spelling?) in the challenge discusion thread is containing some interesting ideas for the young upcoming prospects. I agreee with him on the point that the top draftees of the first 2-3 years should get slighter higher attributes and therefor a higher CA, I guess. It's not realistic to have to let them play for 2 or more years in Juniors until they are somewhere near a roster spot on a productive line....

We are looking into the draft classes. It is too bad the regen classes are so good, too good IMO. I am considering overrating the real draftees to make it more even, but I'm not sure

Flying_Buffalo26 wrote:Anyways, I thank you so much for this update you can't imagine I hope you can keep up that great work and determination.

Thanks! And thank you for your opinions

djskek wrote:please add extra config file:

# Future transfers
#
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "first name" "second name" "current team name" "new team name" date fee wage contract_length
"FUTURE_TRANSFER" "Adam" "Mitchell" "Hannover Scorpions" "Adler Mannheim" 29 4 2007 0 0 2

DONE

empach · Post by **empach** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:24 pm

Manimal wrote:
We are looking into the draft classes. It is too bad the regen classes are so good, too good IMO. I am considering overrating the real draftees to make it more even, but I'm not sure

I support overrating the real draftees.

Tyees · Post by **Tyees** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 5:38 am

I usually just boost the top 5-7 Draftees up by 1 in each stat mostly, I think RNH is severly underrated in this though, he's a much better skater and he's leading the WHL in assists.

I know you aren't basing the stats on this year, but his passing is 8 I believe and all skating stats are 10.

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:22 pm

DEL Update:

DEG Metro Stars have signed a new contract with Marco Nowak until 2012. (2012 --> in game 2008)

bestrafer7 · Post by **bestrafer7** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:33 pm

Manimal wrote:
Flying_Buffalo26 wrote: The comment by tsolkway (spelling?) in the challenge discusion thread is containing some interesting ideas for the young upcoming prospects. I agreee with him on the point that the top draftees of the first 2-3 years should get slighter higher attributes and therefor a higher CA, I guess. It's not realistic to have to let them play for 2 or more years in Juniors until they are somewhere near a roster spot on a productive line....
We are looking into the draft classes. It is too bad the regen classes are so good, too good IMO. I am considering overrating the real draftees to make it more even, but I'm not sure

I started working on the WHL. Adding some of the young players (15-16) and new midget prospects (age 13-15) will probably help out with having less of the regen players. Although, I do believe plenty of the younger players in this game are underrated.

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:46 pm

DEL update:

EHC München sign Bryan Schmidt (Born Jul 27 1981 -- Bloomington, MN)

He gets a contract to the end of this season. (2011 --> in game 2007)

Deutsche 2. Bundesliga update:

Eispiraten Crimmitschau sign Richard Mueller from ERC Ingolstadt.

He gets a contract to the end of this season. (2011 --> in game 2007)

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:42 pm

Manimal wrote: We are looking into the draft classes. It is too bad the regen classes are so good, too good IMO. I am considering overrating the real draftees to make it more even, but I'm not sure

What about getting rid of some of those players that retire at the beginning of the game? All of those guys are making that first regen draft class too strong. If you deleted those guys and didn't have them set to retire immediately, they wouldn't get become regens and unbalance things.

harmonica · Post by **harmonica** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:09 pm

Primis wrote:
Karnage420 wrote:but its very confusing when players are severely underrated for no real reason.
Put down the kool-aid and look at this season's stats, and think about this all again.

Michalek? He's a team-worst -6 on the season on a team where even the two main enforcers are +1 and -1.

Martin? His numbers are padded a bit by his offensive stats. Defensively he's not very good out there though if you watch him. Have you ever watched him in NJ or PIT? Yes, everyone said the Pens overpaid for him, just like they said about Michalek. And what happens? The on-ice result proves the theory.

Karnage420 wrote:fleury - 164 to 173(maybe higher) - had a rough start, but mostly cuz of the bad D infront of him. hes playing the best he ever has at the moment.
Wait, but I thought this d corps was awesome and totally underrated? But it's not the goalie's fault either?

Someone's to blame, "weck up to thees". You're wearing some serious black and gold glasses there, pal. Take em' off and join the rest of the hockey world.

While I disagree with the original ratings posted, your reply deserves questioning as well.

Michalek may have a poor plus minus (the worst stat in hockey) but he has been a rock and one of the reasons the Pens have one of the best PKs in the league. He is a brilliant defender and worth every penny we paid for him. Plus/minus is a garbage stat and will never reflect how good defensive players are.

Martin is a good defender and yes, I wish we paid him $1 less a year, but without knowing how good Letang would play this year, the team needed to pay that for him.

Fleury has stolen games this year and after his poor start has proved that he can once again be counted on.

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:21 pm

Deutsche 2. Bundesliga update:

Dresdener Eislöwen sign Jay Fehr from Acadia University.

He gets the Number 42 and a contract to the end of this season. (2011 --> in game 2007)

Post by **CeeBee** » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:20 pm

2 Canuck things.
Chris Tanev shouldn't be waiver elgible and Manny Malhotra should probably have his faceoff skill bumped up from 16 to 18. He's consistently at or near the top of the NHL in faceoff % but in game he's not even top 20. Thanks.

Post by **CeeBee** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:42 am

Another Canuck fact. They have had something like 200 straight sellouts. I think the attendance factor should be set higher as even after winning Lord Stanley's cup they rarely sell out.

djskek · Post by **djskek** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:32 pm

DEL update:

Augsburger Panther sign Peter Zingoni (Born Apr 28 1981 -- Bridgeport, CT)

He gets the number 17 and a contract to the end of this season. (2011 --> in game 2007)

Krefeld Pinguine have signed a new contracts with Dusan Milo until 2013 and Boris Blank until 2012. (2013/2012 --> in game 2009/2008)

Post by **Manimal** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:11 pm

bruins72 wrote:
Manimal wrote: We are looking into the draft classes. It is too bad the regen classes are so good, too good IMO. I am considering overrating the real draftees to make it more even, but I'm not sure
What about getting rid of some of those players that retire at the beginning of the game? All of those guys are making that first regen draft class too strong. If you deleted those guys and didn't have them set to retire immediately, they wouldn't get become regens and unbalance things.

Hmm, an interesting idea. How do we decide on who to take away?

CeeBee wrote:2 Canuck things.
Chris Tanev shouldn't be waiver elgible and Manny Malhotra should probably have his faceoff skill bumped up from 16 to 18. He's consistently at or near the top of the NHL in faceoff % but in game he's not even top 20. Thanks.

I cannot edit waiver-eligibility and I have already updated Malhotras face-off skills due to another poster reminding me

CeeBee wrote:Another Canuck fact. They have had something like 200 straight sellouts. I think the attendance factor should be set higher as even after winning Lord Stanley's cup they rarely sell out.

I have set all NHL teams after the official average attendance records. Maybe the game cannot cope with having a higher average attendancy than the max attendance as the Canucks are listed. I will look into it