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Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:15 am
by Reave
I'll take the 18 players that are in Swedish J18 Elit and J18 Lower and one more team in UHL/SPHL.
NOTE: BEFORE COMMENCING ANY RESEARCH, PLEASE READ THIS: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 91#p142691

BLUE TEXT = Research received by Archi and added to the master list
RED TEXT = Rosters available for research (this is not an exhaustive list - you can research other teams/leagues if you choose)

NHL
All teams - DONE

AHL
All teams - DONE

CHL
All teams - Lazion

ECHL
Alaska - Lazion
Bakersfield - Lazion
Chicago - Lazion
Cincinnati - Mutonator
Colorado - Lazion
Elmira - Archi

Florida - Torgo
Greenville - Torgo
Gwinnett - Torgo
Idaho - Torgo
Kalamazoo - Torgo
Las Vegas - Torgo
Ontario - Torgo
Reading - Archi
South Carolina - Lazion
Stockton - Lazion
Toledo - Lazion
Trenton - Archi

Utah - Torgo
Wheeling - Archi

UHL / SPHL
Augusta Riverhawks - Reave
Columbus Cottonmouths
Fayetteville Fire Antz
Huntsville Havoc
Knoxville Ice Bears

Louisiana IceGators - Reave
Mississippi RiverKings - Reave
Mississippi Surge - Reave
Pensacola Ice Flyers - Reave
Richmond Renegades - No players

North America: LNAH
HC Carvena de Sorel-Tracy
Rivière-du-Loup 3L

Saguenay Marquis - Archi
Saint-Georges COOL FM 103_5 - Archi
Thetford-Mines Isothermic
Trois-Rivieres Caron & Guay
Windsor Wild


Canada: OHL
Barrie Colts - Reave
Belleville Bulls - Reave
Brampton Battalion - Reave
Erie - B. Stinson
Guelph - B. Stinson
Kingston Frontenacs - Reave

Kitchener - B. Stinson
London - B. Stinson
Mississauga St. Michael's Majors - Archi
Niagara IceDogs - Reave
Oshawa Generals - Reave
Ottawa 67s - Reave
Owen Sound - B. Stinson
Peterborough Petes - Reave
Plymouth - B. Stinson
Saginaw - B. Stinson
Sarnia Sting - Reave
Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds - Reave
Sudbury Wolves - Reave
Windsor Spitfires - Reave


Canada: QMJHL
Acadie-Bathurst Titan - Reave
Baie-Comeau Drakkar - Reave
Blainville-Boisbriand Armada - Reave
Cape Breton Screaming Eagles - Reave
Chicoutimi Saguenéens - Reave
Drummondville Voltigeurs - Reave
Gatineau Olympiques - Reave
Halifax Mooseheads - Reave
Moncton Wildcats - Reave

P.E.I. - MacPhal
Saint John - MacPhal
Quebec Remparts - Reave
Rimouski Oceanic - Reave
Rouyn-Noranda Huskies - Reave
Shawinigan Cataractes - Reave
Sherbrooke Phoenix - No players

Val d'Or Foreurs - Reave
Victoriaville Tigres - Reave

Canada: WHL
Brandon to Portland - Jh06
Prince Albert onwards - Mutonator

US: Atlantic Hockey
US: CCHA
US: CHA
US: ECAC
US: Hockey East
All Teams - Lazion

United States: WCHA
Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs - Reave
Rest of the teams - Lazion

UK: EIHL
All teams - Archi will do these later this summer as part of the UK roster update

UK: EPIHL
All teams - Archi will do these later this summer as part of the UK roster update

Sweden: Elitserien + Allsvenskan
Elitserien, All teams - Reave
Allsvenskan, All teams - Reave

Sweden: J18 Elit + J18 Lower
All 18 players - Reave

Sweden: J20 SuperElit
All teams except Färjestads BK J20 - fishi
Färjestads BK J20 - Reave

Russia Superleague
All teams - Stastny26

Russia MHL
All teams - Stastny26

Russia Pervaya
Amur, Metallurg Novokuznetsk and Vityaz - Stastny26
All players whose last history was 2010 year - Stastny26
Famous players from Russia Pervaya Liga - Stastny26


Russia VHL
Amur - Stastny26
Metallurg Nk - Stastny26
Vityaz - Stastny26
All players whose last history was 2010 year - Stastny26

Various famous and noteworthy players - Stastny26

Finland: SM-League + A-Junior SM-Liiga + Mestis
All Teams - Lazion

Czech Rep: Elite League
All teams - Lukas

Czech Rep: First Division
Orli Znojmo - Lazion

Slovakia: T-Com Extraliga
All Teams - Lazion

Austria: EBEL
All Teams - Lazion

Austria: Nationalliga
EC Dornbirn Bulldogs - Lazion
HC Tiroler Wasserkraft Innsbruck - Lazion

Slovenia: Elite League
HDD Olimpija Ljubljana - Lazion
HK Acroni Jesenice - Lazion

Denmark: Oddset Ligaen
All Teams - Lazion

Norway: UPC-Ligaen
All Teams - Lazion

Germany: DEL
All Teams - Lazion

Switzerland: National League A
All Teams - Lazion

League champions history
All leagues - Archi

Note to Archi (1): Ensure that team names (such as St Georges) have an underscore rather than a comma in their name
Note to Archi (2): Correct the goalie stats that have been entered as SV% rather than Svs.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:48 pm
by Lazion
NOTE: BEFORE COMMENCING ANY RESEARCH, PLEASE READ THIS: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 91#p142691

BLUE TEXT = Research received by Archi and added to the master list
RED TEXT = Rosters available for research (this is not an exhaustive list - you can research other teams/leagues if you choose)

NHL
All teams - DONE

AHL
All teams - DONE

CHL
All teams - Lazion

ECHL
All Teams - DONE

UHL / SPHL
All Teams - DONE

North America: LNAH
HC Carvena de Sorel-Tracy - Lazion
Rivière-du-Loup 3L - Lazion

Saguenay Marquis - Archi
Saint-Georges COOL FM 103_5 - Archi
Thetford-Mines Isothermic - Lazion
Trois-Rivieres Caron & Guay - Lazion
Windsor Wild - Lazion


Canada: OHL
Barrie Colts - Reave
Belleville Bulls - Reave
Brampton Battalion - Reave
Erie - B. Stinson
Guelph - B. Stinson
Kingston Frontenacs - Reave

Kitchener - B. Stinson
London - B. Stinson
Mississauga St. Michael's Majors - Archi
Niagara IceDogs - Reave
Oshawa Generals - Reave
Ottawa 67s - Reave
Owen Sound - B. Stinson
Peterborough Petes - Reave
Plymouth - B. Stinson
Saginaw - B. Stinson
Sarnia Sting - Reave
Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds - Reave
Sudbury Wolves - Reave
Windsor Spitfires - Reave


Canada: QMJHL
Acadie-Bathurst Titan - Reave
Baie-Comeau Drakkar - Reave
Blainville-Boisbriand Armada - Reave
Cape Breton Screaming Eagles - Reave
Chicoutimi Saguenéens - Reave
Drummondville Voltigeurs - Reave
Gatineau Olympiques - Reave
Halifax Mooseheads - Reave
Moncton Wildcats - Reave

P.E.I. - MacPhal
Saint John - MacPhal
Quebec Remparts - Reave
Rimouski Oceanic - Reave
Rouyn-Noranda Huskies - Reave
Shawinigan Cataractes - Reave
Sherbrooke Phoenix - No players
Val d'Or Foreurs - Reave
Victoriaville Tigres - Reave


Canada: WHL
Brandon to Portland - Jh06
Prince Albert onwards - Mutonator


Canada: CIS
From Acadia to McGill - Lazion

US: Atlantic Hockey
US: CCHA
US: CHA
US: ECAC
US: Hockey East
US: WCHA
All Teams - DONE


Federal Hockey League
All teams - Torgo

US: ECAC East
US: ECAC West
US: ECAC Northeast
US: SUNY Athletic Conference
US: Minnesota Intercollegiate
US: Massachusetts State Collegiate
US: N.E Small Schools AC
US: Northern Collegiate Hockey Association

All Teams - Torgo

United States Hockey League
All Teams - Torgo

UK: EIHL
All teams - Archi will do these later this summer as part of the UK roster update

UK: EPIHL
All teams - Archi will do these later this summer as part of the UK roster update

Sweden: Elitserien + Allsvenskan
Elitserien, All teams - Reave
Allsvenskan, All teams - Reave

Sweden: J18 Elit + J18 Lower
All 18 players - Reave

Sweden: J20 SuperElit
All teams except Färjestads BK J20 - fishi
Färjestads BK J20 - Reave

Russia Superleague
All teams - Stastny26

Russia MHL
All teams - Stastny26

Russia Pervaya
Amur, Metallurg Novokuznetsk and Vityaz - Stastny26
All players whose last history was 2010 year - Stastny26
Famous players from Russia Pervaya Liga - Stastny26


Russia VHL
Amur - Stastny26
Metallurg Nk - Stastny26
Vityaz - Stastny26
All players whose last history was 2010 year - Stastny26
Various famous and noteworthy players - Stastny26


Finland: SM-League + A-Junior SM-Liiga + Mestis
All Teams - Lazion

Finland: Suomi-Division
Lazion will do these in round two

Czech Rep: Elite League
All teams - Lukas

Czech Rep: First Division
Orli Znojmo - Lazion

Slovakia: T-Com Extraliga
All Teams - Lazion

Austria: EBEL
All Teams - Lazion

Austria: Nationalliga
EC Dornbirn Bulldogs - Lazion
HC Tiroler Wasserkraft Innsbruck - Lazion


Slovenia: Elite League
HDD Olimpija Ljubljana - Lazion
HK Acroni Jesenice - Lazion


Denmark: Oddset Ligaen
All Teams - Lazion

Norway: UPC-Ligaen
All Teams - Lazion

Germany: DEL
All Teams - Lazion

Germany: 1. Bundesliga
All Teams - Lazion

Switzerland: National League A
All Teams - Lazion

Switzerland: National League B
All Teams - Lazion

Italy: Seria A
All Teams - Lazion

France: Magnus League
All Teams - Lazion

League champions history
All leagues - Archi

Note to Archi (1): Ensure that team names (such as St Georges) have an underscore rather than a comma in their name
Note to Archi (2): Correct the goalie stats that have been entered as SV% rather than Svs.
Note to Archi (3): Check for any references to "OHK Dynamo Moscow" and change to "Dynamo Moscow"

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:48 am
by Lazion
I picked more leagues to research.
I have one question about French junior league.. I see that there's U22 and U18 leagues in France, but in db there's Espoirs league which is U20.
So.. should I skip either one of these IRL leagues or do I call all juniors as a U20 espoirs team names?

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:02 am
by Alessandro
The Espoirs league in the db is supposed to be the U22 one, we'll change it

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:03 pm
by francis246
I'd love to help if you guys need help doing anything else ?

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:51 pm
by Torgo
I've sent in the updated Federal League players.

Lazion - are you doing all of these?
US: Atlantic Hockey
US: CCHA
US: CHA
US: ECAC
US: Hockey East

or just Hockey East?

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:04 pm
by archibalduk
First of all, my apologies for being so quiet in relation to this project. I have been spending all of my time working on updating various British leagues for Manimal's update in addition to doing work on the upcoming OOTP game. It has been pretty hectic (and still is). :oops:

Thank you to Stastny, Laz, JH06, Torgo and Reave for all of their research. I have imported it all into the database and have updated the most recent list (click here). I want to say a particularly HUGE THANK YOU to Lazion for all of his hard work. We now have over 50,000 new entries researched and Lazion has researched over 50% of them! :notworthy:
Torgo wrote:I've sent in the updated Federal League players.

Lazion - are you doing all of these?
US: Atlantic Hockey
US: CCHA
US: CHA
US: ECAC
US: Hockey East

or just Hockey East?
According to my records, he has done all of them.
francis246 wrote:I'd love to help if you guys need help doing anything else ?
Heh well as you'll see, we have covered a huge range of leagues (far, far more than I was anticipating). It's a tough job just finding a league to do now! :-D

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:17 pm
by Manimal
Can someone do Canadian Interuniversity Sport, please?

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:24 pm
by Alessandro
archibalduk wrote: Heh well as you'll see, we have covered a huge range of leagues (far, far more than I was anticipating). It's a tough job just finding a league to do now! :-D
There will be a huge lot of new players to be researched once my new players will be imported in Archi's sacred lists :-D

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:32 am
by Lazion
Manimal wrote:Can someone do Canadian Interuniversity Sport, please?
Sure. I'll do it during this week.

Edit.
This is slow league to research. Finished two teams and found 40 retired players. Also there's lot of players with Chinook HL and other missing senior league stats so I dont add those in sheet.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:00 pm
by Torgo
I'll grab
US: ECAC East
US: ECAC West
US: ECAC Northeast
US: SUNY Athletic Conference
US: Minnesota Intercollegiate
US: Massachusetts State Collegiate
US: N.E Small Schools AC
US: Northern Collegiate Hockey Association

That should be all of D3.
I've made a logo pack for these schools as well. I just have to figure out how to get it posted.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:14 am
by Torgo
All the US D3 schools are done and have been sent in.

Now starting on the USHL.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:50 pm
by Torgo
Sent in the USHL. The US Junior team entries are tricky because there aren't 2 US Junior teams in the league anymore like there was in 2009.

The master DB should be updated to reflect that, if possible.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:11 pm
by archibalduk
Thanks Torgo. You have been of great help. :)

I will be posting a new list of players who need histories researched. This will be either this week or next weekend. Once we have completed these, we should be able to wrap up this project for version 5.0. With so many histories already researched, I think this is going to be a really exciting update. :cool:

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:36 pm
by Torgo
While we're waiting for the next batch, I did the players from the North American Hockey League.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:43 pm
by Manimal
Torgo wrote:Sent in the USHL. The US Junior team entries are tricky because there aren't 2 US Junior teams in the league anymore like there was in 2009.

The master DB should be updated to reflect that, if possible.
My American researcher had a very good reason for setting up two teams for the USNTDP. I just can't remember them now.
I will ask him to explain to you

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:03 am
by AdamOates
Torgo wrote:Sent in the USHL. The US Junior team entries are tricky because there aren't 2 US Junior teams in the league anymore like there was in 2009.

The master DB should be updated to reflect that, if possible.
I changed the U.S. NTDP into 2 separate teams in the USHL because without doing that, they have too many players and always drop some of them. I know this isn't ideal, but it's the best I could come up with.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:38 am
by Torgo
AdamOates wrote:
Torgo wrote:Sent in the USHL. The US Junior team entries are tricky because there aren't 2 US Junior teams in the league anymore like there was in 2009.

The master DB should be updated to reflect that, if possible.
I changed the U.S. NTDP into 2 separate teams in the USHL because without doing that, they have too many players and always drop some of them. I know this isn't ideal, but it's the best I could come up with.
That's cool. I'll dig my spreadsheet out and put them back the way the game has them, then re-submit.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:37 am
by archibalduk
Torgo wrote:
AdamOates wrote:
Torgo wrote:Sent in the USHL. The US Junior team entries are tricky because there aren't 2 US Junior teams in the league anymore like there was in 2009.

The master DB should be updated to reflect that, if possible.
I changed the U.S. NTDP into 2 separate teams in the USHL because without doing that, they have too many players and always drop some of them. I know this isn't ideal, but it's the best I could come up with.
That's cool. I'll dig my spreadsheet out and put them back the way the game has them, then re-submit.
Please could you highlight the cells that you change? I will need to go through my master spreadsheet and make the changes.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:27 pm
by Torgo
I sent in a sheet of only players who needed the team name update.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:31 am
by archibalduk
I had been hoping to get the next batch of player names uploaded last weekend, but unfortunately I had to spend most of my free time on fixing an error with the next roster update.

However, I have made a start on the histories today. The first step is to import the histories into the database. It is only once I have done this can I use the Updater to generate a new spreadsheet listing the remaining players that need their histories updating.

Unfortunately, when I imported the histories into the database, the Updater has reported errors with 2,626 entries. Reasons for the errors are:
  • The team name entered does not match the list of teams included with the research spreadsheet (e.g. "Trenton Devils" were entered whereas it should be "Trenton Titans").
  • The team name entered matched the list of teams, but it has since been renamed in the Manimal v5.0 Rosters (e.g. "AaB Ishockey" have been renamed to something else, but I haven't found out what yet).
  • "Unknown team" has been entered as a team whereas this should have simply been left blank (or "_none").
  • Some staff names and DOBs don't match what is in the database. This might be because things have since been changed/corrected in the database or it might be that they were incorrectly entered into the spreadsheet.
  • Some competition names have been incorrectly entered or the competition doesn't exist in the database (e.g. Norway U18).
  • For a number of goalies, no Games Played stats were entered (the history entries will not appear in game if there are zero games played).
  • For a number of goalies, Save% was entered instead of Saves.
  • There are quite a few entries with "0" entered as the year.
In total, I will need to fix 2,812 mistakes/errors. I think in these circumstances that we stop researching histories for the v5.0 release so that I can spend time fixing all of these errors. I am somewhat concerned about how long this task will take. Hopefully I can get it done in time for the release of v5.0, but I guess that depends on how soon the rosters will be released. Thankfully the vast majority of the errors relate to team names and so I'm hopeful I can at least go through that part quite quickly.

I don't mean to end this on a negative note, I just wanted to explain why I feel we should hold off researching any more histories until after the release of Manimal v5.

On a more positive note, it is quite astounding how much of the database we have been able to cover with this research. Not only have we covered the majority of playable leagues, but we have also covered a huge range of prospects and players on non-playable teams. A particular thank you to Reave, Torgo and Lazion who have each covered a huge amount of work. =D> Once I have smoothed out these errors, the database will be in great shape come version 5. :cool:

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:22 am
by Lazion
archibalduk wrote:[*]The team name entered matched the list of teams, but it has since been renamed in the Manimal v5.0 Rosters (e.g. "AaB Ishockey" have been renamed to something else, but I haven't found out what yet).
AaB is probably changed to Aalborg Pirates
archibalduk wrote:[*]Some competition names have been incorrectly entered or the competition doesn't exist in the database (e.g. Norway U18).
I can help you with these Norwegian junior stats if you send those stats errors to me.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:33 pm
by archibalduk
Thank you! :thup:

With regards to the Norway U18s etc, I was wondering whether it's simply a case of asking Alessandro to add these leagues to the database. Would you agree?

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:59 pm
by Alessandro
AaB is now Aalborg Pirates.

Re: History Updating 11/12 for Manimal v5.0 - VOLUNTEERS NEE

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:06 pm
by Lazion
If I remember correctly the missing Norwegian junior leagues are U19 and U17. Both leagues are 'defuncted' now and for 2012/13 season there's U20 and U18 leagues. I already created U20 in db, which should be linked into U19. I think that we can delete U17/U18 entries completely and change U19 to match U20 league+teams which are in db.