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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:22 pm
by The Forsberg Fan
bruins72 wrote:The Forsberg Fan wrote:Manimal wrote:What team shall we use for the next challenge? Atlanta is probably the worst team we haven't used, but they have Kovalchuk and Lehtonen often turns out really good in my saves( I haven't used him, though)
Do we weaken a team somehow to make it more challenging?
I for one, would also like to give a go at junior hockey again, but I'm not sure if they'll be finished in time for the release of 2.0
Why not a europe team ?
We've done votes before and it just didn't seem to bring enough interest. Most people playing the challenges seem to be primarily interested in the NHL.

Oh okey
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:23 pm
by McQwak
I see Florida or Toronto weak enough to give them a try. Were they in challenge already?
Europe teams have disadvantage that they play far less matches than NHL teams (or North American). And as long as challenge GM cannot go on vacation, we could end with just pressing spacebar during the loooong offseasons.

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:27 pm
by The Forsberg Fan
McQwak wrote:I see Florida or Toronto weak enough to give them a try. Were they in challenge already?
Europe teams have disadvantage that they play far less matches than NHL teams (or North American). And as long as challenge GM cannot go on vacation, we could end with just pressing spacebar during the loooong offseasons.

I didnt know that they couldnt go on vactation, so that is one of the main things why it isnt any challenge with europe teams ?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:35 pm
by bruins72
That's a good point, McQwak.
We did use Toronto back in Challenge #8. I wonder if the current team (including the addition of Phil Kessel and the subtraction of 2 1st round picks and 1 2nd round pick) might be a little more challenging. There really isn't much offense on that team but there's lots of toughness. My only concern here is that the goaltending tandem of Toskala and Gustavsson might be a little too strong.
Florida is very interesting as a young team that really needs time to develop. I just worry that Vokoun might be a little too good. Still, they could be a very interesting option.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:38 pm
by bruins72
The Forsberg Fan wrote:McQwak wrote:I see Florida or Toronto weak enough to give them a try. Were they in challenge already?
Europe teams have disadvantage that they play far less matches than NHL teams (or North American). And as long as challenge GM cannot go on vacation, we could end with just pressing spacebar during the loooong offseasons.

I didnt know that they couldnt go on vactation, so that is one of the main things why it isnt any challenge with europe teams ?
It's one reason. Another reason is that many people are unfamiliar with how things work in those league. Another reason is that the mainstream interest is in the NHL and using the world's top talent.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:41 pm
by Manimal
How about the Avs? Not so good goalies. Some good youngsters, though (Stastny, Duchene)
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:58 pm
by bruins72
Manimal wrote:How about the Avs? Not so good goalies. Some good youngsters, though (Stastny, Duchene)
Do you think the Budaj might be a little over-powered in the game? In real life they're a team that should be pretty weak this season. In the game he's a good starting goaltender. Blocker 16 Glove 17 Recovery 17 Positioning 16. That's pretty darn good. They've actually got a pretty good defense too. Hannan, Liles, Quincey, Salei, Clark, Foote, and Preissing. Then add in Wolski, Stastny, Hedjuk, and Svatos on offense. I don't know. That seems like a team I could win with.
I'm going to do a little testing with Toronto, Florida, Colorado, and Atlanta. Maybe Edmonton too. I'll see these teams play out for a bit.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:21 pm
by batdad
Budaj is WAY too good in the game. Dude consistently takes the Avs into the playoffs all by himself in my 1.3 save that I am playing. It is now 2020 and he is gonna retire but...he consistently wins 39 games, and has an average rating of above 8. GAA is a little high (high 2s) but his save percentage is always .910 or so. Honestly, at best he should be a career backup and he is almost an all star (would be except for the goalies I have had...Luongo, Hasek regen.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:22 pm
by batdad
Bah forgot since not mod anymore cannot edit challenge post.
I would really be interested in another junior challenge. Not sure so much about an NHL one. Junior for sure for me.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:29 pm
by bruins72
batdad wrote:Budaj is WAY too good in the game. Dude consistently takes the Avs into the playoffs all by himself in my 1.3 save that I am playing. It is now 2020 and he is gonna retire but...he consistently wins 39 games, and has an average rating of above 8. GAA is a little high (high 2s) but his save percentage is always .910 or so. Honestly, at best he should be a career backup and he is almost an all star (would be except for the goalies I have had...Luongo, Hasek regen.
I agree! In the game he's just too strong of a start when in real life he can't hold down a starter job. In the game he's got a CA of 140 and a CA of 170. That's just too much for him. I plugged his stats from last season into the ShaddSheet and came out with a CA of 129. I wouldn't make his PA any more than 135. I think I'll pass this tidbit along to Lidas and maybe we can get him toned down?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:43 pm
by Manimal
batdad wrote:Bah forgot since not mod anymore cannot edit challenge post.
I would really be interested in another junior challenge. Not sure so much about an NHL one. Junior for sure for me.
We are working on getting the unsigned prospects into the database as well. I know you talked about the lack of depth before. It would be real fun. What WHL teams would be a challenge this year? The Broncos, perhaps?
In the OHL I'd say the Sarnia Sting
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:52 pm
by The Forsberg Fan
bruins72 wrote:The Forsberg Fan wrote:McQwak wrote:I see Florida or Toronto weak enough to give them a try. Were they in challenge already?
Europe teams have disadvantage that they play far less matches than NHL teams (or North American). And as long as challenge GM cannot go on vacation, we could end with just pressing spacebar during the loooong offseasons.

I didnt know that they couldnt go on vactation, so that is one of the main things why it isnt any challenge with europe teams ?
It's one reason. Another reason is that many people are unfamiliar with how things work in those league. Another reason is that the mainstream interest is in the NHL and using the world's top talent.
Oh okay. Thanks for anwsering
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:53 pm
by The Forsberg Fan
bruins72 wrote:The Forsberg Fan wrote:McQwak wrote:I see Florida or Toronto weak enough to give them a try. Were they in challenge already?
Europe teams have disadvantage that they play far less matches than NHL teams (or North American). And as long as challenge GM cannot go on vacation, we could end with just pressing spacebar during the loooong offseasons.

I didnt know that they couldnt go on vactation, so that is one of the main things why it isnt any challenge with europe teams ?
It's one reason. Another reason is that many people are unfamiliar with how things work in those league. Another reason is that the mainstream interest is in the NHL and using the world's top talent.
Oh okay thanks for the answers
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:29 pm
by batdad
WHL--Raiders, Cougars, Winterhawks..
BTW---FOr the Database Portland Winter Hawks are now Portland Winterhawks. No space anymore...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:25 pm
by McQwak
I'm really looking forward to next challenge. I currently wait for new db and play EHM with my challenge 14 team in very relaxing way.
So what about making decision on which team we will use for challenge 15? Therefore we can avoid time gap between releasing new db and challenge start. We can be prepared and immediately kick the challenge off.

Bruins72, is the team or timing decided already? Or at least the league?
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:10 pm
by bruins72
We haven't totally picked the team yet but we've got a few ideas. We'll do an NHL challenge to coincide with the release of the new Lidas rosters. Then for the challenge after that I think we'll go with another league, like maybe a Canadian Junior league if there is interest.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:21 pm
by Manimal
Here is an idea I got when looking at the Lake Erie roster. How about creating a Special Development Award? At the start of a challenge we decide on a prospect or player(not a star, but someone low on our lists) and we'll compete to see who gets the most out of him.
I'll do an unofficial one for this challenge, if you want to. Just for fun and glory!
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:38 pm
by bruins72
Interesting idea, Manimal! Why don't we try an unofficial one for this challenge and see where it might take us? How will we decide who wins? Do we look at the prospect at a certain point in the game, like season 3? Or just look at their stats when everyone has finished the challenge? I like the idea but I think we've got to hammer out some solid guidelines for how it's going to work.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:52 pm
by batdad
Special prospect? is that like special ed? or Special Ed Jovocop?
No..that sounds like a great idea manimal..I task you (TASK U) haha with figuring out how to make it work and keep people honest.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:56 pm
by bruins72
You're special ed, B-diddy!
I think proof shouldn't require more than a simple screenshot of the player's stats, right?
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:02 pm
by batdad
Yeah. And BTW--I am setting up the game. Right now, I am thinking...I will NEVER make a trade, never sign an UFA.
Staff: Will only sign to fill out guys, and when contracts expire look at cheaper guys. Not firing, just moving on....
Will rely on my amazing drafting and development abilities.
So right now..I GUARANTEE I WILL ONLY USE WAIVER WIRE starting season 2 and onward. Cause Season 1, cannot do anything anyway.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:10 pm
by bruins72
Actually, now that we've changed the UFA signing pyramid to allow a lot less to be spent on UFAs, it looks like the waiver wire is going to become a much more viable option for many people. In season 2 you might actually be able to land an impact player off waivers. Of course, if we were actually allowed in season 1 it would be too easy!
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:06 pm
by Manimal
bruins72 wrote:You're special ed, B-diddy!
I think proof shouldn't require more than a simple screenshot of the player's stats, right?
How about just taking an easy route and going by Average Rating (NHL) with a minimum of games played(Otherwise some schmuck might just play him in one game and if it's good relegate him just to get a nice AVR).
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:13 pm
by CatchUp
I like that idea. I'm thinking it should be a minimum of 20 or more games played. Could go higher than that though.
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:15 pm
by bruins72
I supposed that would cover all positions. If we went by points, defensemen and goalies would get ripped off. So how about career average rating (NHL) rather than just a single season? It should be found at the bottom of the player's history page. Or is that what you meant? I think the minimum number of games is a good idea.
The next question is "Who?". Would we all be doing this with the same person?