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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:05 am
by philou21
I say to my friend that the Avs will enjoy the signing of Anderson and they laugh....
Anderson is a very good signature for the Avs, he his one of the best back-up goalie in the NHL with Clemmensen and Jonas Hiller ( maybe i should say J-S Giguere now i don't know ) He's not the type of goalie who will play 80 games like Nabokov or Brodeur but the 40-50 games he player are often solid one. To put the stats he showed up last year with the Panthers, you need to have a little bit of talent. Despite of Budaj never become a very good goalie, they need somebody else and Anderson is certainly one of the best signing this summer at the salary they gave him.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:30 am
by batdad
No problem for Me Hensel. But u should probably read the site rules on language. And Btw if you knew ne you likely would not say what you did.If you were done whybtry to instigate a response? But you don't know me so like I said to each his own. Any other personal comments can be pm'd to me. And no not everyone has a gave team. I like em all. When I was a kid I had a team. Now I like good hockey. Sure sometimes I root for one team over another. But that is based on the personalities of players, coaches I gloved or the style of hockey. Example. Keenan is a moron so I hate the flemmes. Now with sutter I am undecided.
Also undecided for Anderson. But that shutout was an outstanding performance.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:16 pm
by bruins72
Okay, Hensel and batdad... anything else either of you has to say about each other should be taken to PM. We don't need the two of you having a lovers quarrel in the middle of the forums. So kiss and make up and take the fight to PMs.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:37 pm
by philou21
Luongo had another bad game yesterday. The Blue Jackets get him out of the game! What happen with Roberto, the season is still young though but a 3 straight bad start from him is suspicious.

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:55 pm
by batdad
That was really Luongo's first bad game on a personal level. He played well in the other two, just the team was horrid. Last night...they were all horrid, especially Roberto.
He really starts poorly, each and every season. He is very aware of it, but clearly not able to fix it. Shirokov is nowhere near ready for the NHL, and I think Vigneault discovered that last night on the 5x3 Van had where..Shirokov was CLUELESS, and the Sedin's held the puck in CBJ end for almost the full 2 minutes. On the backcheck Shiro was lost, partly because he could not play for that long...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:51 pm
by philou21
The Habs sign M-A Bergeron to a one year deal/750 000$. He's not as good as Markov in defense but for the PP he can make a good job, good signature. Now with another Dmen sign, when Markov and O'byrne come back there will be a problem. lol They don't have the place for the rookie anymore!
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:01 pm
by Danny
Lucic re-signed for 3 years. If early reports of 4m p/a are true that's a massive overpayment.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:28 pm
by batdad
Not considering he is a better player than Versteeg. and is going to be a much better player than Versteeg and he got 3.25 off his entry level. THere are many many others out there as well. Now that Milan has a deal like that (if true) he will start to play like a player who is being paid $6 million. Trust me...that is the way he is.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:36 pm
by Danny
batdad wrote:Not considering he is a better player than Versteeg. and is going to be a much better player than Versteeg and he got 3.25 off his entry level. THere are many many others out there as well. Now that Milan has a deal like that (if true) he will start to play like a player who is being paid $6 million. Trust me...that is the way he is.
Yeah well, there are worse contracts in the league than his no doubt. Still, that's paying for potential IMO, and that's just not something I like in a cap world. Seems official now that TSN is saying 12.25 over 3 years.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:23 am
by Jypfan92
Marc-Andre Bergeron goes to Habs. His salaries are 0,75 million dollars.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:45 am
by McQwak
I don't get that Lucic contract. I'm sure he would sign even for less. He's just 21!
And what more - he turned to be Frankenstein

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:53 pm
by bruins72
Danny wrote:Lucic re-signed for 3 years. If early reports of 4m p/a are true that's a massive overpayment.
Yeah, a little bit over $4M per season. And the contract ends in his last year of RFA status, so they should have a chance at signing him again before big UFA money comes calling. I think that's a part of why the money was so high. Also, they had to send a message. Lucic is a fan favorite and after the Kessel situation they had to lock Lucic up to let the fans (and other teams in the league) know that they're not just being cheap and they're trying to keep their young talent. Also factor in that Lucic is gaining a cult status in Boston. He's their favorite type of player and he puts fans in seats. I'm pretty sure he's becoming a big merchandise draw too. All of these things factor into it.
Still, when I first heard the news, I was very surprised that he got more than Krejci.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:12 pm
by batdad
Yeah getting more than Krecji is a shock. BUt the upside of growth and development for Milan, considering he still continues to improve his skillset, not just his game and positioning....is Cam Neely. Krecji will be good, but Lucic is the ENTIRE marketing campaign for the Bruins for the forseeable future. Milan brings more than G A PTs PIM. He also brings alot of $$$ in. Which helps him negotiate.
But...well...even I have to admit being surprised at the bucks a bit, and I am the biggest Milan Lucic guy ever.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:27 pm
by bruins72
I don't think Lucic brings in more G A or PTs than Krejci. Last season Krejci was 2nd in points on the Bruins with 73 (and a +37 rating!) while Lucic was 10th on the team in points with 42 (and a +17 rating). Most people are figuring that Lucic might develop into a 30-40 goal scorer one day but Krejci has already had a 73 point season he's only 23. Once Savard's contract is up after this season and they can't afford to re-sign him, Krejci and Bergeron will be the B's top 2 centers and I could see Krejci developing into a 90 point guy.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:37 pm
by philou21
I'm gonna go with Bruins72, i don't think Lucic will be a 40 goals scorer but i think he can have 60-70 pts regularly. Four millions is really overpaid. Maybe for the last 2 years of his contract he will deserve is 4 millions. Lucic will be a good power foward but i don't know where to put him....second line or first line?

Still, with Bergeron and Krejci, he will have good player in both line.
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:56 pm
by bruins72
Lucic is already playing on the first line. He's currently out there banging bodies and making room for Savard and Sturm. Last season he played on the first line (for a good chunk of the season) with Savard and Kessel.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:05 pm
by batdad
what I said was there is more to it than G A PTS. Not that he will score more than Krecji. He won't. Stuff Milan brings in terms of revenue that Krejci does not. Lucic will at his peak score 35 goals. He will at his peak score 75 points. But it is the intangibles both on and off the ice that if he continues to develop will bring more $$$ to the Bruins, which makes him deserve more $. Same thing with Trevor Linden in Vancouver getting paid more than he should have for what he brought on the ice later in his career.
again, it may be overpaid for what he brings on the ice, but Lucic has proven in Minor Hockey, Junior Hockey, and in the NHL that he works harder to develop his game skills (Skating, puckhandling, shot, etc.) than anyone else. Others peak at this stuff at age 22, and just get smarter and wiser. Milan will continue to grow past that age, similar to Alex Burrows in Vancouver. Skills, intensity, off ice love from fans....all of that makes him extremely valuable and allows him to bring more revenue to the team. Plus he is a fun invterview, and is involved off the ice. This is where his contract makes him bigger than the average 21 year old 20 goal scorer with potential on the ice. His character.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:11 pm
by bruins72
My bad. I misread. I thought you had said he brought more G A and PTS. I'm pretty much in agreement with you on the rest.
Speaking of Lucic and the Bruins, I was just listening to a local sports talk radio show and they were interviewing Mark Recchi (who had very high praise for Lucic's character and maturity). The guys on the show were busting his chops about being the old man on the team (41 years old) and he mentioned that Lucic's parents were in town and he went out to dinner with them. Lucic happened to mention to Recchi that his mom was only a year older than Recchi. LOL! I'm sure there will be lots of jokes in the locker room on that one!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:54 pm
by batdad
Heh. No doubt. But I think Mark is a little short for Milan's mommy from what I remember. Plus not sure he is strong enough to handle her..

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:06 pm
by bruins72
Oh really? Do tell!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:55 pm
by batdad
Nah. Suffice it to say...mark is short. Mrs Lucic, not so much
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:59 pm
by bruins72
LOL! Milan has good genes!

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:01 pm
by batdad
Well that depends. She is not petite either. But man is she nice.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:05 pm
by bruins72
Good genes for growing monster hockey players! I'm hoping my boys end up that way.
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:21 pm
by McQwak
bruins72 wrote:Good genes for growing monster hockey players! I'm hoping my boys end up that way.
Will your twins be 2 boys?

Keeping fingers crossed for healthy children! (I know what I'm talking about.)