EHM The Blue Line

lapaz wrote:

Lidas wrote:

lapaz wrote:Hey!
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So what stats should I change? Please be more specific than just "This player is too good/bad"

Staff fixed.

This some, what me and my friend think...

Too good players in this roster(2.0): (only little chances, 1-3 rate):
Petri Kokko (positioning, passing, slapshot, wristshot, checking)
Toni Dahlman (every technical)
Jani Rita (positioning, stickhandling)
Janne Hauhtonen (stickhandling, passing, wristshot, hitting)
Ari Ahonen (maybe every technical -1)
Jussi Timonen (passing, off the puck)
Patrik Nevalainen (positioning)
Jari Kauppila (checking, hitting)
Joni Yli-Torkko (stickhandling, off the puck)
Aki Berg (slapshot, passing, hitting)
Ville Nieminen (stickhandling, off the puck)
Aleksis Ahlqvist (positioning, reflexes)
Janne Lahti (stickhandling, deking)



Too bad players in this roster(2.0): (only little chances, 1-3 rate):
Toni Kähkönen (positioning, stickhandling, hitting, checking, every physical)
Ville Lajunen (slapshot, passing, off the puck)
Jarkko A. Immonen (positioning, stickhandling, strength)
Aleksi Laakso (+5 slapshot, +5 wristshot, +5 stickhandling, passing, off the puck, creativity, anticipation)
Jerry Ahtola (slapshot, wristshot, positioning, every physical, off the puck)
Mikael Granlund (stickhandling, positioning, passing, off the puck)
Joonas Kemppainen (every physical, positioning, faceoffs, off the puck)
Markus Seikola (wristshot, slapshot, off the puck)
Marko Anttila/Ilves (stickhandling, influence, wristshot, every physical)
Jesse Niinimäki (positioning, off the puck)
Colby Genoway (positioning, stickhandling, wristshot, slapshot, faceoffs, off the puck, every physical)
Ville Korhonen (team work, work rate, wristshot, deking, passing)
Joonas Rask (wristshot, positioning +5, passing, deking +5, stickhandling, creativity)
Pekka Tuokkola (every technical and physical)
Sami Vatanen (stickhandling, wristshot)
Ossi Saarinen (positioning, wristshot, stickhandling)
Teemu Eronen (every technical)
Mika Järvinen (every physical, blocker, positioning)
Adam Andersson (stickhandling, positioning, wristshot, passing, off the puck, every physical)
Tuomas Kiiskinen (slapshot, positioning, wristshot, speed, strength)
Atte Ohtamaa (every technical)
Tomi Pekkala (every physical, stickhandling +5, slapshot, wristshot, positioning, off the puck, deking)
Antti Raanta (every technical)
Petri Vehanen (every physical, rebound control, blocker, positioning)
Charlie Cook (every technical)
Janne Keränen (positioning, stickhandling, wristshot, passing, deking)
Justin Morrison (stickhandling +5, positioning, pokecheck, off the puck, deking)
Kurtis McLean (positioning, passing, off the puck)
Miikka Tuomainen (every physical, checking, pokecheck, hitting)
Juha Uotila (every physical, passing, positioning, hitting)
Petr Pohl (every technical)
Tero Koskiranta (positioning, passing, off the puck, faceoffs)
Atte Engren (every technical)
Michal Birner (wristshot +5, slapshot, stickhandling, passing, off the puck, deking)
Darcy Campbell (stickhandling, checking)
Antti Erkinjuntti (every physical, stickhandling, wristshot)
Mike Radja (positioning, stickhandling)
Harri Säteri (every technical)
Harri Ilvonen (slapshot, passing, checking)
Jonas Enlund (stickhandling, passing, off the puck)
Jori Lehterä (every physical, stickhandling, wristshot, positioning, passing, off the puck, faceoffs)
Jussi Rynnäs (every technical)
Dan Iliakis (positioning, every physical, checking)
Marko Luomala (slapshot, wristshot, stickhandling, checking)
Sakari Salminen (stamina, deking, passing, wristshot)
Tommi Huhtala (every physical, stickhandling, wristshot, slapshot, hitting)
Mika Niemi/Ässät (positioning, stickhandling, off the puck)
Teemu Hartikainen (wristshot, checking, hitting, pokecheck, stickhandling)
Joonas Donskoi (stickhandling, deking, passing)
Jesse Jyrkkiö (every physical, stickhandling, passing, wristshot)
Jere Sallinen (stickhandling, wristshot, positioning, passing, checking)
Matias Myttynen (stickhandling +5, slapshot, positioning +8, pokecheck, passing, off the puck, faceoffs, deking)
Ilmari Pitkänen (stickhandling, pokecheck, passing, deking)
Juuso Rajala (every physical, off the puck, stickhandling, slapshot, deking, checking)
Joonas Koskinen (wristshot, stickhandling, pokecheck, passing +5, off the puck, deking, checking)
Antti Kangasniemi (every physical, stickhandling, positioning, pokecheck +5, checking +5, faceoffs +4)

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Some transfers:
Teemu Elomo --> Herning
Ilkka Vaarasuo --> Jukurit
Jari-Pekka Pajula --> available
Vladimir Ryzhkov --> available
Boris Gazur --> K-Laser

Lukko has changed arena name from DNA Areena to Äijänsuo-Areena.


Farm teams:
JYP --> D-team
Ilves --> LeKi
Tappara --> LeKi
Pelicans --> HeKi
Kärpät --> Hokki
SaiPa --> Jukurit
HPK --> SaPKo
TPS --> TuTo
Lukko --> FPS

jasonponty wrote:Ryan Callahan on the Rangers should have the primary position of a RW.

Should go RW/LW/C

empach wrote:Ville Koistinen of the Panthers has been playing right wing this year. Though apparently he hasn't impressed there and may be returning to defense.

Stastny26 wrote:Roman Lyuduchin (Spartak) RW and LW, not center!

Stefan Ruzicka on the Spartak should have the primary position of a LW.
Should go LW/RW

Reave wrote:More updates for Färjestad, this time position and cm/kg:

Gustaf Thorell - Playing on LW too, so from RW to RW/LW.
Fredrik Lindgren - From RD/LD to LD or LD/RD.
Markus Karlsson - From LD/RD to RD/LD.
Jonas Holøs - Plays more or less RD this season. From LD/RD to RD/LD.
Lee Goren - Plays RW, C mostly on faceoffs. From C/RW to RW/C.
Marcus Paulsson - Maybe a little less on C attribute (19 now), because he have played LW this season.

Robin Rahm - From 85 kg to 80 kg.
Arto Laatikainen - From 184 cm and 88 kg to 181 cm and 85 kg.
Markus Karlsson - From 180 cm and 83 kg to 184 cm and 85 kg.
Severin Blindenbacher - From 179 cm and 92 kg to 180 cm and 88 kg.
Johan Andersson - From 90 kg to 93 kg.
Henrik Björklund - From 188 cm and 92 kg to 189 cm and 90 kg.
Emil Kåberg - From 88 kg to 90 kg.
Antti Pilhström - From 181 cm and 87 kg to 180 cm and 82 kg.
Marcus Johansson - From 180 cm and 86 kg to 181 cm and 82 kg.

tiger-hai wrote:Great (and very much) work Lidas!

The
Some quick input for Kölner Haie (DEL)

Frank Doyle => Charlotte Checkers (seen today on eliteprospects)
Todd Warriner=> Free Agent
Stephane Julien is missing (was only loaned to RB Salzburg last year)
Kevin Hecquefeuille should be C
Martin Bartek (RW) is missing
Dusan Frosch should be RW/LW
Daniel Rudslätt should be LW/C
Gerrit Fauser should be LW/C
Goalie Maximilian Englbrecht is missing (loaned to Duisburg)
Christopher Mauch is not under contract anymore

Wages are perhaps not very accurate. E. g. Weibel should be much higher (about 120.000), Rudslätt should be lower (about 95.000).

Some other DEL stuff i noticed:
Mannheim:
Colin Beardsmore has German Citizenship, Chris Schmidt is missing, Dan McGillis is Free Agent, Justin Papineau is missing

visualdarkness wrote:Cogliano also could be the fastest player in the NHL so he really should have 19-20 in pace and acc.

visualdarkness wrote:Andrew Cogliano should get a tad lower Face-off stat, man that guy is brutal on the dot!

Super Mario wrote:Some minor tweaks for Hannover Indians (Germany 2.Bundesliga)
I know, they are not playable in this game, but perhaps you wanna include these changes nonetheless.

Players completely missing:
G Dennis Korff (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
D Nick Martens (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
F Jeremy Wagner (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
D Josef Staltmayr (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67
F Marian Rohatsch (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
F Arthur Lemmer (http://www.pferdeturmtowers.de/index.ph ... Itemid=141)
F Christoph Koziol (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
D Tobias Stolikowski (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
D Brad Bagu (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
D Matthias Bergmann (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
D Jan Philipp Priebsch (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)
F Bryan Phillips (http://www.hannover-indians.de/index.ph ... &Itemid=67)


Players already in the database but missing for Hannover:
G Benjamin Voigt (Free Agent)
LW Daniel Huhn (EV Landsberg 2000, he also has German nationality)
RW Torben Saggau (Hamburg Freezers)
LW Josh Olson (Hannover Scorpions, was probably placed to the wrong team)
C/RW Kyle Doyle (Free Agent)

Players who have left Hannover:
G Lukas Smolka (probably Free Agent)
LD/RD Trevor Wright (Don`t even know who he is )
LW Adam Dewan (probably retired, I read that he will be a part-time coach for a canadian junior team)
C Daniel Del Monte (has been released a few days ago)
RW/C Devin Rask (probably retired)

Additional information:
G Thomas Ower belongs to Frankfurt Lions (DEL), but has been loan to Hannover to gain playing experience ("Förderlizenz")
RW Torben Saggau belongs to Hannover but has a "Förderlizenz" for Hamburg Freezers (DEL) to get playing time at a higher level

I would love to add information for the missing players in order to help out with the attributes, but I only get to see the team play a few times a year, so I wouldn't be anywhere near accurate.

Thanks for the great updates, Lidas!

jasonponty wrote:Vinny Prospal is mainly being used as a LW this year...
Should be LW/C

and

Evgeny Grachev is being brought up as a LW but still plays some center...
Should be LW/C

Canuckk wrote:

pebsykid wrote:Did anyone change the atts of players in the CHL? I only ask because in the first draft no one really turns out. I did a couple of sims and Hall and Seguin are like 4th liners at best for example.

You just got unlucky with the PA of the prospects. The top prospects have the potential (-9) to be stars, but in a worst-case scenario, they can become career third-liners as well. I would probably rate Taylor Hall's determination and work rate slightly higher though... that guy's got s stellar work ethic already.

Lidas wrote:

tiger-hai wrote:Great (and very much) work Lidas!

The
Some quick input for Kölner Haie (DEL)

Frank Doyle => Charlotte Checkers (seen today on eliteprospects)
Todd Warriner=> Free Agent
Stephane Julien is missing (was only loaned to RB Salzburg last year)
Kevin Hecquefeuille should be C
Martin Bartek (RW) is missing
Dusan Frosch should be RW/LW
Daniel Rudslätt should be LW/C
Gerrit Fauser should be LW/C
Goalie Maximilian Englbrecht is missing (loaned to Duisburg)
Christopher Mauch is not under contract anymore

Wages are perhaps not very accurate. E. g. Weibel should be much higher (about 120.000), Rudslätt should be lower (about 95.000).

Some other DEL stuff i noticed:
Mannheim:
Colin Beardsmore has German Citizenship, Chris Schmidt is missing, Dan McGillis is Free Agent, Justin Papineau is missing

DEL havent been properly researched yet, and thus the rosters aren't complete. I've added your changes though, but I havent created Englebrecht, but I will when DEL has been researched.

As for wages, I have wages for all leagues except for NHL randomized (based on reputation), so there is nothing I can do there unless you want me to change their abilites.

tiger-hai wrote:

Lidas wrote:

tiger-hai wrote:Great (and very much) work Lidas!

The
Some quick input for Kölner Haie (DEL)

Frank Doyle => Charlotte Checkers (seen today on eliteprospects)
Todd Warriner=> Free Agent
Stephane Julien is missing (was only loaned to RB Salzburg last year)
Kevin Hecquefeuille should be C
Martin Bartek (RW) is missing
Dusan Frosch should be RW/LW
Daniel Rudslätt should be LW/C
Gerrit Fauser should be LW/C
Goalie Maximilian Englbrecht is missing (loaned to Duisburg)
Christopher Mauch is not under contract anymore

Wages are perhaps not very accurate. E. g. Weibel should be much higher (about 120.000), Rudslätt should be lower (about 95.000).

Some other DEL stuff i noticed:
Mannheim:
Colin Beardsmore has German Citizenship, Chris Schmidt is missing, Dan McGillis is Free Agent, Justin Papineau is missing

DEL havent been properly researched yet, and thus the rosters aren't complete. I've added your changes though, but I havent created Englebrecht, but I will when DEL has been researched.

As for wages, I have wages for all leagues except for NHL randomized (based on reputation), so there is nothing I can do there unless you want me to change their abilites.

Thanks a lot for the quick answer. Who is researching the DEL? Is anybody doing this or do you need more help?

Lidas wrote:I worked on the players, but since some of them have randomized values, I dont know what values you have seen on the players, and thus I cannot know what value to set. Maybe you could check the values in the editor instead.

Lidas wrote:As for the farm teams - are they really farm teams, or teams that they usually loan their teams to? There are similar relationships in Sweden too, but I didnt set them as farms.

Lidas wrote:

lapaz wrote: Farm teams:
JYP --> D-team
Ilves --> LeKi
Tappara --> LeKi
Pelicans --> HeKi
Kärpät --> Hokki
SaiPa --> Jukurit
HPK --> SaPKo
TPS --> TuTo
Lukko --> FPS

As for the farm teams - are they really farm teams, or teams that they usually loan their teams to? There are similar relationships in Sweden too, but I didnt set them as farms.

Lidas wrote:

tiger-hai wrote:

Lidas wrote:

DEL havent been properly researched yet, and thus the rosters aren't complete. I've added your changes though, but I havent created Englebrecht, but I will when DEL has been researched.

As for wages, I have wages for all leagues except for NHL randomized (based on reputation), so there is nothing I can do there unless you want me to change their abilites.

Thanks a lot for the quick answer. Who is researching the DEL? Is anybody doing this or do you need more help?

djskek wanted to take over after timmi611, but he wants to update the database directly, whereas Id like him to send me excel sheets. If he doesnt change his mind, I need to look for another researcher.

visualdarkness wrote:Cogliano also could be the fastest player in the NHL so he really should have 19-20 in pace and acc.

tksolway wrote:

bestrafer7 wrote: That is not the point of keeping an up to date, accurate rating for each and every player for everyone to use. I would like to see every player in the DB ranked accurately.

You are right, these rosters are for everyone, that is why everyone has a vested interest. The problem is, even if you believe that this player is the real deal, the rest of us will need some actual proof other than the self-serving opinion of the scout that drafted him. The problem here is that the ranking of a player is a matter of opinion, since lidas is trying to build the database for everyone, he keeps the ratings in line with our collective opinions. Obviously some of us think better of some players than others. However, we are all hesitant to give a 7th round pick such a large boost (the -15 potential means he could be the next Nik Lidstrom), because if any other team thought he could be the next Nik Lidstrom, he would have been picked long before the 7th round.

tksolway wrote:If by this time next year he's tearing up the swedish leagues and we're all proven wrong, cool .

pebsykid wrote:I find a lot of the top picks are not very good compared to the regens that come up. In reality a top pick in the NHL usually gets 50-60 points but most end up 4th liners in EHM once they get drafted.

tksolway wrote:I took a look at the Oilers in the DB now that I have time, here's some observations

-Taylor Chorney should be faster.
-Comrie is playing LW/C this year
-Eberle should have better abilities all around, He would have stuck in the NHL this year in the Oil didn't already have too many forwards. in Regina this year, he has 2 points per game.
-Brule could also get a small boost in his offensive attributes, he has 10 points in 16 games (5G, 5A)
-I don't know if there is a stat for that, but Grebeshkov has a really bad habit of giving the puck to the opposite team (somone already asked to have his defensive abilities lowered I believe).
-Jacques should have a little better hitting, its pretty much what he does , higher injury proneness though, every time he gets called up he injures something.
-Steve Macintyre was claimed by the Panthers on Waivers
-Reddox's shooting and passing attributes should be lower, he is truely useless for anything but banging bodies.
-Nilsson's teamwork, work rate, consistancy, and positioning should be less.
-O'Sullivan is RW/LW/C this year, He shoots a lot as well (56 so far), I'm not sure how the pass shoot tendancy works in the editor, but he should be closer to the shoot end.
-Penner is an interesting problem. He's in the top 5 in scoring this year. But in the past has been somewhat streaky. If you think its right to increase some attributes now, or wait until later in the season and see if he keeps this up. Personnally I'm ready to say to Burke: "So 4.5 million, way to much for that player eh." Always said they would be overpaying for him for the first couple years. Hope he keeps up this pace, it would be great for the Oil to finally have that type of player again.
-Pisani's injury proneness should be up, they guy can't play a week without injuring himself.
-Stortini should have higher bravery, he led the league in fighting majors last year


Hope this helps, If you all don't agree with my ideas here, its ok, I realize I may have my Homer Glasses on.