The Official TBL Practice Thread

whatwasthat · Post by **whatwasthat** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:36 pm

I have all my skaters on three schedules that are 3 intense + 3 medium, I rotate these schedules monthly

----------------Cond.----Skat.----Tact.----Shoot.----Off.----Def.----Goalt.
General #1...INT........MED.......MED......INT.........INT......MED......MED
General #2...MED.......MED.......INT.......MED.......MED.....INT.......INT
General #3...MED.......INT........MED......MED.......INT.......INT.......MED

My goalies only have one schedule.

----------------Cond.----Skat.----Tact.----Shoot.----Off.----Def.----Goalt.
Goalies..........MED.......MED.......INT.......INT.........INT.....INT.......INT

I would like some suggestions on my practice regime

I also have a question, when my players are low on condition like 60%, is it okay to put them on an all Light schedule for as many days as they need to rest back to 100%?

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:45 pm

Those 3 general schedules seem fine. I'm sure you'd get decent results from that.

I would change your Goalies setup though. You don't need Shooting training for your goalies. It's a waste. Off and Def aren't as useful either. I'd actually put my Conditioning at INT over those. Skating sometimes too.

If a player's condition is around 60% I would just put them on rest. That's really low. I normally put my guys on rest if they drop below 86%.

whatwasthat · Post by **whatwasthat** » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:11 pm

I've listened to your input and put my goalies on either conditioning or skating because they could use a boost in agility and balance.

Thanks

cazzman · Post by **cazzman** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:56 am

Hi

I have been reading this thread a lot lately since I just started to train my team myselfe, and I have had great help with all information here, so thanx.

I have one question, I have Ilya Kovalchuck in my team. And he have realy great attributes on mostly, (around 18- 20) should I have him practice like everyone else? this season I have had him mostly on Generell? since I dont know what practise he need since he allready have good attributes?

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:34 pm

I would still train him along with the rest of your players, unless he starts showing the "could use some rest" after games. You want to keep his attributes from dropping and you also want him to learn your tactics. Once he gets the "could use some rest" status, then I'd throw him on General practice.

harmonica · Post by **harmonica** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:35 pm

cazzman, keep training him no matter how good his stats are. you don't want them to drop and they can always get better.

I would set up a schedule for him with Intensive training on DEF and GOALTENDING. As these are his weakest stats. I would rotate the other things he is learning. Conditioning would be another good one, with lesser time in Skating.

Maybe for one month out of the year I would put some in to Shooting and Off. Remember, Tactics is something he should be in as well.

Keep him on all INTENSIVE during the off season.

Every player can get better as long as they are not past their prime.

Also, the older (and the younger) players are, the more conditioning they need.

Good luck, and keep working on making Kovy a more well rounded player.

jesusrocks150 · Post by **jesusrocks150** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:09 pm

I'm interested in setting one of my practice regimines to retrain a defensemen to become a winger. How long will this process take and how do I do it?

This is what I did so far...not sure if it's right or not:

I Set the "unused" regimine to new position of left winger and set the intensities as I deemed necessary. I guess now I just play the waiting game

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:33 pm

Yup. That's pretty much how you do it. There is no set time on how long it will take a player to pick up the new position. They might not even be able to. The hidden attribute "Adaptability" determines how well (if at all) the player can learn a new position or play multiple positions.

jesusrocks150 · Post by **jesusrocks150** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:43 pm

If it is "successful", will that position be indicated in the players Positions screen or show up under their Profile for what position they play (LD/RD or in this case LD/LW)?

Should I go ahead and move the player to the new position I want him to play (probably not a good idea) or wait and see if he "adapts" in practice?

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:49 pm

I think you'll see it show up on the player's positions screen first but it could show up on their profile too.

While I usually don't bother with training players to play another position, the consensus has been that if you have them play the position you want to train them in, they'll pick it up faster.

Post by **CeeBee** » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:08 pm

2 other thoughts. Sometimes a player will eventually tell you he does not want to learn a position and when you look at the positions listed in the profile/ positions screen they are more likely to learn a position thats listed there, even if it's the "unconvincing" term.

jesusrocks150 · Post by **jesusrocks150** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:30 pm

As of now, not too many days into the retraining process, the "positions" screen is still just showing the player as a defenseman. I'll keep checking if I decide to proceed with retraining.

Pax25 · Post by **Pax25** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:23 am

Midway through last season when I rejoined my team after being fired, I didn't take the time to reset all my practice schedules, but instead set the head coach to take control of practice. Since then, whenever I check my practice screen it says all my players are on a resting schedule all the time? Is this normal?

Post by **B. Stinson** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:28 am

I'm not sure if it's normal, but I wouldn't be surprised. The AI doesn't do a very good job with practice (assuming it does anything at all). I would recommend taking the extra minute or two to set up practice yourself.

Pax25 · Post by **Pax25** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:05 am

B. Stinson wrote:I'm not sure if it's normal, but I wouldn't be surprised. The AI doesn't do a very good job with practice (assuming it does anything at all). I would recommend taking the extra minute or two to set up practice yourself.

The funny thing is that it actually solved my original problem, which was that all my players were incredibly tired all the time when I controlled practice. And I was following the method laid out originally in the SI forums (the three medium, three intensive schedule). I got tired of having to manually rest players and they were suffering in game. However, now, it is the start of a new season, and I'm not seeing any change and I can't imagine that rest is the best thing for them?

drewst18 · Post by **drewst18** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:07 am

Pax not sure what is up with your guys getting tired. Not sure if it is a bug or by design but players only really get "tired" at certain points of the season it seems.

For DM if a player has 14 or over stamina I put them on all intense and they don't get tired at all and all their atts go up. Come playoffs and training camp you need to tweak this, but during the season as long as decent stamina they should last on all intense, so going by this outline should be even more safe by not tiring players.

umwoz · Post by **umwoz** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:00 pm

What changes if any do you guys make for EHM 2005 to your schedules. Do you just run the same schedules?(3 INT, 4 MED)

King_Louis · Post by **King_Louis** » Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:45 pm

After reading and learning from Malhotras good practice i'll give it a try this season Any suggestion or modification that i should make to it???

every aspect of training should have two coaches? a Coach should coach 4 or less aspect of it? I usually set a coach per aspect and set the players in their training and let them for the whole season but its all about to change.

Big question right here! Is it better to have awesome general coaches with good stats (15-16+) everywhere or a technical coach with good offensive players training skills and average or less (13-12 or less) at other stats ???

I usually get general for my head coach; technical for offense, defense, goalie; conditionning for... condition But las season i had good training results with my pro team but it was a mess and a wasted year for my prospect... in this particular game i'am a draft master

but having good drafts is all wasted when you can't train them.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:53 pm

King_Louis wrote: every aspect of training should have two coaches? a Coach should coach 4 or less aspect of it? I usually set a coach per aspect and set the players in their training and let them for the whole season but its all about to change.

I usually limit each coach to 3 areas of training, sometimes 4. My goalie coach will on work on goalies unless he's really good in another area but that is rare.

King_Louis wrote:Big question right here! Is it better to have awesome general coaches with good stats (15-16+) everywhere or a technical coach with good offensive players training skills and average or less (13-12 or less) at other stats ???

I usually get general for my head coach; technical for offense, defense, goalie; conditionning for... condition But las season i had good training results with my pro team but it was a mess and a wasted year for my prospect... in this particular game i'am a draft master but having good drafts is all wasted when you can't train them.

I find it better to have your assistants each focus on an area. Have one assistant with 16+ Offensive and be a technical coach. Have a 16+ Defensive technical coach. For goalies, you should look at 18+ Goaltending because you really want them focused on that. Then find an assistant that might have average training skills but good motivation and discipline. He should be a conditioning coach. Try to see if you can get at least one of your assistants to have a good tactics ability. Your head coach should be a general coach. You'll want him to have at least average training skills but good is better. He should have a 16+ in tactics and you really want his determination, man management, discipline, and motivation to be good.

Once you've done your hiring, look at their abilities and see the best way to lay them out. Have each assistant focus on 3 areas and maybe give your coach 4 areas. Only have your goaltending coach work on goaltending. I think other coaches being assigned there drag the training down if they're not top notch.

King_Louis · Post by **King_Louis** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:57 pm

Thanks Big bad Bruins!

that's what my philosophy of training looked liked and i'll give them 3 training and i wasn't very sure of two coaches training the same routine. I,ll try to put two coach in routines that have many players just to see the effects.

King_Louis · Post by **King_Louis** » Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:46 pm

What you do with unsatisfied customer of your training?? i've been warning them for unprofessional conduct and they seem to shut it after a day or two but is there an other way?

Richie Daggers Crime · Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:10 pm

Change their practice routine to something they don't object to. You're probably trying to train them in a position they're not capable of learning.

Post by **timmy_t** » Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:59 pm

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:Change their practice routine to something they don't object to. You're probably trying to train them in a position they're not capable of learning.

Agreed

cazzman · Post by **cazzman** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:16 pm

I have a question about of season. Im in June and my players have the sign: Tired. What should I put them on when they are tired? should they rest or practice Condition?

Cazzman

MKoivuFan · Post by **MKoivuFan** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:13 pm

B. Stinson wrote:Here's my full list: (Listed by conditioning, Skating, Tactical, Shooting, Off. Skill, Def. Skill, Goaltending)

General: All Medium, Goaltending = None.

Goalkeepers: M, I, L, N, N, N, I.

Fitness: I, I, others = None.

Defense: M, M, I, L, L, I, N.

Centers: M, M, M, M, I, I, N.

Forwards(Wingers): M, M, M, I, I, L, N.

Academy: I, I, I, L , L , L, N.

NOTE... I often switch things around a little bit to keep my players on their toes... so the above settings are only my own default, or "core," settings.

Stinson if thats what ur training is during the season what training do u do in the off-season

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