Official 10-11 NHL Playoff Thread

[Jypfan92]

I think Nucks take first away win at these series and take the Cup!

[philou21]

Because I'm in my week off I'm gonna be able to watch the whole game tonight!!!! I hope it will be good.

[timmy_t]

Go Bruins! 2-0

[timmy_t]

Wow, 3-0! Luongo is pulled...

[timmy_t]

Ok, 4-0. I know it's not over, but I'll stop posting now.


Yeah for Bruins72!

[philou21]

Well, that was looking familiar. Bruins on fire, Luongo got a bad game at Boston ( especially on the second goal ) Thomas awesome, Bruins defense awesome, two invisible men wearing Nucks jersey. Now going back to Vancouver where it's like the opposite except for Thomas performances. I'm almost starting to think that Batdad is right with the ice.....

Vcr got alot of shots but it's just long shot from the blue line or in the middle of the zone, no real challenge for Thomas there but the defense is playing so well that the Nucks can't get closer. When they have a good opportunity to get closer, they have way more good chances, they scored 2 goals by been near Thomas.

One more thing I found weird.....Edler's penalty in the first was sooooooo a stupid call. It's not his fault if Peverley can't skate.....maybe it was the ice?

[batdad]

WIthout reading anything....Now that game? It hangs on Roberto. What bothered me even more than him? I know the CAnucks have been yappy and annoying in this series. I know they had not been all season long until this series. What I hated more than anything was the smug freaking look on their faces when the camera panned over the bench after the 2nd Boston goal. It was like "meh...whatever...we got this in the bag." Same look they had in the room before the game.
I really hate it...I knew some of what out of Vancouver people were saying was true. I just did not think all of it was. Even Kesler had the look. It was like these guys think they were pre ordained to be Stanley Cup Champions this year.
Hideous 5 minutes of hockey, and hideous goaltending for that period.

I quit watching. Then they lose Edler and Alberts to injuries. I have no idea what happened to them. Anything can happen in game 7, but noone in their right mind bets on Vancouver to win that game 7.

Boston in that 5 minutes did not even have a real scoring chance. Pucks went in from horrible goaltending and defensive positioning. God the Canucks may have to dress Nolan Baumgartner. Wow.

Congrats to the Bruins. A job well done, and well deserved. Neither team from what part of the game I saw played well tonight. But the B's got the job done, in 5 minutes.


Edit: Philou...tonight had nothing to do with any ice problems. Weather was fine. The problem tonight was defensive play for 5 minutes and Roberto not being ready to play. He has to stop at least 2 of those first 3 goals. Has to. That is what he is paid to do. MAke the big save when needed. None of them were really big saves that were needed either. He just blew them. Marchand shot was a muffin. Lucic shot was a muffin. Terrible.

Edler penalty: He was lucky he was not tossed for that. SHoulder to head into glass. Plus you are not allowed to play the body in a race to an icing call. Plus Peverley never touched the puck. Over agressive bad play by Edler.

What happened to Edler and to Alberts? Mason Raymond was in trouble. Innocent, weird play. Both ankles bent wrong ways, back was on a 90% angle, and head hit ice and boards. Not a good sign there. I was shocked Boston did not get 18 goals for Horton tonight.

[racicot]

Just a painful 1st period to watch. I really don't think Boston played as well as they did in games 3/4, but they pretty much had this one in the bag at the 10 minute mark of the first, so the dynamic was a little different. On a side note, I thought Schneider played great after the first goal got by. He looked more and more comfortable as the night went on. Even on the other goal that scored, he made a diving glove save only to have the rebound come right out to Recchi who made another cross-crease pass when he was down and out.

The other thing I noticed is that after Henrik missed that open net, Thomas got wise to the "shoot the puck at the boards for the Lapierre goal at the side of the net" trick. He was playing much more conservatively and the door was always closed whenever they tried the move later in the game.

I would be worried about game 7 if I was a Nucks fan. Actually, as a Bruins hater, I am worried about game 7 too. I really think Boston should have the confidence. I mean, they have outscored Vancouver 19-8 in this series. It's crazy that this is even tied.

[philou21]

What I hated more than anything was the smug freaking look on their faces when the camera panned over the bench after the 2nd Boston goal. It was like "meh...whatever...we got this in the bag."

I saw that too. But they were looking destroyed by those quick goals, like all hope was lost and they could do nothing. That's really not a good attitude, you are in the Stanley Cup final and you need to win every game to earned it. My friend was telling me that he wasn't worried that he prefer Vcr to win the Cup at home.......yeah I can understand that but in a game 7 in the final.....things can be really different.

Edler penalty: He was lucky he was not tossed for that. SHoulder to head into glass. Plus you are not allowed to play the body in a race to an icing call. Plus Peverley never touched the puck. Over agressive bad play by Edler.

Ok, I don't remember Peverley not having the puck, so the penalty is right. Why it wasn't worse it's exactly because Peverley fell, on is own, not because of someone else. If Peverley would've have stayed on his foot, that would've been a normal hit and the boarding penalty called anyway.

Mason Raymond was in trouble. Innocent, weird play. Both ankles bent wrong ways, back was on a 90% angle, and head hit ice and boards. Not a good sign there. I was shocked Boston did not get 18 goals for Horton tonight.

I didn't even got time to see what Raymond got that he was on the ice not moving, what the heck happened???

[Loosie]

I'm shocked Boychuk didn't get a penalty for that hit on Raymond. The hit was late (at least according to NHL standards, the puck was gone for more than 0.5 seconds), and not only that Raymond was in a VERY vulnerable position and Boychuk just shoves him into the boards. The officials claim that the Raymond 'lost an edge', hence no penalty. But looking at the reply Boychuck had more than enough time to stop the hit. No word yet on Raymond's status, but I wouldn't surprised if he has a cracked tailbone, or possibly a compressed spine.

Edler's penalty, had they been playing the puck that was a clean legal hit, but Edler didn't play the puck so he got the penalty, you can't do that on icing calls. Yes 5 or 6 years ago that's a clean hockey hit, but not anymore.

This has been an odd series in that Boston comes out so physical at home that it knocks Vancouver off their game in Boston, but that can't replciate that in Vancouver. Vancouver wins another tight one in Game 7 to take the cup. More than likely another 1 goal game, maybe even another 1-0 game.

@ racicot, Yes Boston has outscored Vancouver 19-8 in this series, but that's also Vancouver being outscored 17-3 on the road and outscoring Boston 5-2 at home. As the CBC commentators have mentioned in the Stanley Cup Final a loss is a loss, this is not an aggrigate series. Although I'd be interested to see if theis is the first time the Stanley Cup Winners have been outscored over the whole series.

Looking at the stats over the 3 series that Vancouver played, I think the Sharks series was actually 'too easy' for Vancouver and has made them a little too cocky coming in? Or is it really just that Boston has dominated the body and the head games IN Boston? We'll have the answer Wednesday night I guess.

[bruins72]

I hope Raymond is okay. He's one of the few Canucks I don't hate. Of course, you never want to see anyone injured like that.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, it was nice to see Horton at the game. That's a good sign. He was able to be there, in a noisy crowd. My wife works at a medical center near the New England Patriots (she sees lots of Patriots and Red Sox come into her facility). She's got friends at other locations in the city and one was telling her that Horton was begging them to let him play last night. Then he was trying to negotiate and be allowed to play if they made it to game 7. No luck though. The NHL's concussion guidelines just weren't going to allow it.

Is it Wednesday yet?

[batdad]

Many people around here are asking how Boychuk does not get a penalty on that Raymond play. Maybe 2 minutes. It was just a weird weird play and I totally get how the refs call nothing on that one. Raymond may however have a broken pelvis. This is what is making the rumour rounds out here. If he does..his career could be over. Based on MIke Murphy's way of interpreting lateness..is there a 1.5 count as puck is away from Raymond before Mason's arse hit the boards? If so...should have been two for interference. But then when you see how Raymond's head is between Boychuk's knees? Maybe there is a pile driver going on. Maybe Boychuk should get 4 games.

Just putting that out there. Was it dirty? No..but the timing was really bad. Sounds exactly what Murphy said. It was not a deliberate target but it was late, and a player was badly injured. NHL should suspend Boychuk for four games. Oh, I forgot the part about calling Brian Burke first...so Murphy should suspend Mason Raymond for 4 games.

[Loosie]

According to TSN Raymond is out 3-4 months with a vertebrae compression fracture. Now had this happened in Vancouver, we MIGHT have seen a suspension. That's one of the problems I have with NHL suspension, they are not consistent, and seem to rely more on fan/crowd/media reaction then any actual sensible judgment.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=368842

[Danny]

God that looked so awkward I don't even know what to make of it. Also, I hereby suspend batdad from this thread for game 7

[batdad]

Not going to happen Danny. Like I said...not sure what to make of the Boychuk-Raymond play either. But I can see where both sides are on it. It looks weird, awkward...but at the same time it does appear Johnny shoves him, well after the puck is gone. I dunno. I just don't. It is a tough call. But the shove comes well after puck is gone. raymond is in a very prone position and Boychuk knows it...then gives him an extra shove. Not smart...should have let up..I mean what is Mason going to do with his head stuck between Boychuk's legs? I suppose he could bite him.

[Danny]

I'm wondering whether the injury didn't occur prior to him hitting the boards. He looked to be in a very awkward position from a certain point on alltogether. If you know how Manchuk hits you know that bump is really nothing compared to what he's capable of. I guess Mason could've bitten his balls off...then Nucks would go out and trade for Manchuk
Edler's hit was nastier than both this and Rome's.
You know when I said there's not gonna be any crying if the Bruins lose ? Wrong sir. I won't even go online for a week except checking mails if that happens. If the Nucks won in 4 or 5 sure, but being so close. don't even wanna think about it...

[batdad]

No Danny...Leafs would offer you 4 first round picks and outbid the Nux. That is if he got both of em.

And yeah, totally agree Edler hit was absolute evil. Only thing saved him from 5 was that Peverley did not dive like Thornton. Diving in this series is an epidemic on both sides...especially the face throwback.\


When I was younger---1994 I was only 25. That game seven vs NYR was pure hell. I was living and dying on that game. Now that I am 42, and see hockey from a totally different point of view then I did back then, it is not so hard.
I have found to my surprise that this playoff has brought some of the "Team fan" back in me that has been missing for years. But at the same time, not living or dying on it. Back in the day, I would have stayed and watched the full Boston-Vancouver game that was in Boston. Now...if it is not good hockey I do not bother. And last night...was not good hockey.

The games with good hockey have been games 1,2,4 and 5. Last night after those quick goals both teams just packed up and waited for game 7. Canucks made small pushes because Boston was home and cooled out. This is giving some Canuck fans (and apparently Glen Healy who has done nothing but rip the Canucks until last night) some sort of confidence. Um no boys...the BRuins were just saving some energy. You boys going to have to work real hard. But you do not seem to be prepared to do it. Who had the vision on this team of holding the Cup? Whoever it was is just as dumb as that guy who keeps claiming the world is going to end. You gotta work for it, and your smug faces are not helping you any.

[Danny]

I've still got 13 years of near-heart attacks to go then
and I personally thought games 3,4 and 6 were GREAT hockey, the rest LAME

[philou21]

I've still got 13 years of near-heart attacks to go then
and I personally thought games 3,4 and 6 were GREAT hockey, the rest LAME

Omg, you look worse than a Habs fan saying this.

[Danny]

I have to say one thing, now I have the habit of re-watching important Bruins games, if I have the time. I did it for every game except game 2 during the finals, I usually get one of the feeds when I watch it live and then use the other feed for re-watching. So I have the benefit of having watched most of the action on NBC/VS and CBC, and I have to say, the level of incompetence and unprofessionalism on CBC is uncanny. I've noticed this during the Habs series already, where they were caught lying on multiple occasions, too bad for them NESN had reverse angle replays CBC didn't have (or want to show). Healy is just generally a nutcase, like Cherry, except he's not entertaining, and Hughson and the other guy just call the games worse than an 14 year old kid on youtube, or philou. Jeez Bob Cole would do a better job calling the finals. It's pretty sad you're disappointed as an announcer that an important player on the other team who has left to the locker room has returned to the ice because it turned out it's just an equipment issue. I hope they choke to death on their pompons after Luongo gives up a softie in OT. What a bunch of pathetic lowlifes. Homerism is one thing, hoping for injuries and lying and then withholding replays (or maybe not even having them available, then just say you couldn't see it clearly) takes it to a whole new level.

[philou21]

I don't think it was necessary to mention my name, this is becoming abusing. But if it help you feeling better in your heart I can let that go.

[Danny]

Because that's how you tend to post at times
It's all cool, don't worry... until you get a job with CBC

[philou21]

To be back on topic, I think I watched one game on CBC a couples of years ago. They are really THAT worse?

[Danny]

I don't know, I never really watch it. But its been worse than a Nashville regional broadcast during the playoffs.

[batdad]

*cough* Mike MIlbury....he actually referred to the Boston Bruins as "we" and you have the nerve to call someone on another network a HOMER. Wow.


Background on Hughson--Born and raised in Vancouver, grew up here. Loves the Canucks all his life. Gets his dream job #1 as their radio guy. Gets the job on TV as their TV guy..2 years later gets the CBC job. Becomes CBC #1 guy and has done Maple Leaf games all year. Not apologizing for it...he is excited about the Canucks here. No question. However...he is also EXTREMELY critical of how bad some of the guys have played in Boston, and of the diving and head bobbing. So....there you go.

I can quote Milbury calling the Bruins "We" on NBC...so defend that. I can quote Penis McGuire on NBC a guy who has been all aboard Canucks all season long in Vancouver calling them a bunch of sissy divers (Without mentioning Mr. Marchand, Chara, Thornton and several other Bruins doing it as well).

Simpson--It is hilarious you think this dude is a Canucks homer.I have met him several hundred times due to my job. He must be doing one hell of a job masking his hatred of the Canucks. He has hated them for decades. Since he was a teenager. So..I guess he is just overcompensating.

Bob Cole--Who would not love a guy who calls Daniel and Henrik "The Sundin twins". Who repeatedly says... "The Leafs...they move ahead...they dump it in there." "The Bruins they dump it out of there" The Leafs...they turn it over." He does not know a SINGLE player's name in the ENTIRE NHL, that is not wearing a Loaf jersey. IF Boston has a number 15...he might call him Kaberle. Totally lost it. But I agree...in his prime, dude was the best there was on CBC, save Danny Gallivan. (Jim Robson was awesome too...but he did not work for CBC for very long, because he did not like missing Canuck games!!)

Also...the two stations are the national broadcast rights holders for their countries. They know that the viewers of their telecasts are more likely to be rooting for the teams that are from their country. SO....they jingo it up a bit. Well...some do. SImpson I cannot see it. The guy is evil to the Canucks. Chirps at em all the time.

Healy--What do you expect from a backup? Guy is horrid. Tries to be opinionated but he is out to lunch 9/10 times. How you can call him a homer I dunno...he has hated the Nucks since 94 when watching from his bench spot in Madison Square Garden. Trust me again...no love there. But we will agree on the fact that he is a COMPLETE IDIOT.

He has made one accurate comment the entire series..that the Canucks had to quit being so stupid and get Malhotra off the left side d-zone faceoffs last night. Could not win one if his life depended on it on his weak side last night.

Except the problem was...he was losing the draws to Luongo's RIGHT not LEFT like Healy was saying.