NHL Prospect Research help wanted

rfroese · Post by **rfroese** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:03 pm

The problem there is there are only 2 seasons (the first two years) that foreign goalies can play in Russia in the game. After year 2 there is a hard-code that forces all non-Russian goalies to be cut. So you would have to give the goalies Russian citizenship going into the game. (on a side note Robert Esche is WAY too good the way the game is now)

Panfork · Post by **Panfork** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:08 pm

So basically, I just use the calculator to get the CA of each prospect, then make any changes to general info, and any changes to attributes where I think they should be made? There's not too much change in CA for most prospects, so I'm guessing most attributes would stay generally the same, however, some players have surprisingly low stats in what's seen as their best attributes compared to the rest of their stats.

Example, Luca Sbisa's stickhandling was one of his lowest stats, but Sbisa's stickhandling is known to be his strong point.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:29 pm

So if that is the case, you would alter Sbisa's stickhandling attribute. Use that chart that shows the attribute range for the CAs. For example, if Sbisa's CA is 123 (just throwing a random number out there) and you think his stickhandling is one of his strong points, put his stickhandling somewhere between 10 (the average for CAs in the 120s) and 16 (the max for CAs in the 120s).

Some players might not have been rated correctly because previous researchers weren't very familiar with the players and didn't get good scouting reports. Try to do your best to make them as you think they should be based on the info available to you. Just try not to go overboard and make your favorite prospects TOO good.

Leeman14 · Post by **Leeman14** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:27 pm

When we've completed the spreadsheet, do we upload them to the site and alert Manimal or there a different process?

Post by **Manimal** » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:33 pm

Leeman14 wrote:When we've completed the spreadsheet, do we upload them to the site and alert Manimal or there a different process?

Just send them to me

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:36 am

visualdarkness wrote:
rfroese wrote:
Manimal wrote: Other than Radulov and Jiri Hudler(who went back), I don't think the KHL has stolen many good players form the NHL. Mostly over-the-hill europeans and borderline NHLers. They should be better than the SEL, though, so perhaps we should raise their reputation slightly. Anyone else with opinions?
Wouldn't it make sense to set the KHL at 17 so it's halfway between the SEL and NHL?
Yeah, that would probably at least keep some of the good russian prospects from leaving for NA. Or am I wrong? Already in season 2011/2012 many of their older good players start to fade away and from there and one no real refilling of the league will occur. Anyone else who noticed that problem?

That will also make the teams take players from other European leagues. I will change it to 17 and we'll see how it goes

Leeman14 · Post by **Leeman14** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:19 pm

Manimal wrote:
Leeman14 wrote:When we've completed the spreadsheet, do we upload them to the site and alert Manimal or there a different process?
Just send them to me

I don't see an option for attaching a file to a PM nor do I see your email address in your profile, Manimal. Am I missing something?

Post by **joehelmer** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:14 pm

Leeman14 wrote:
Manimal wrote:
Leeman14 wrote:When we've completed the spreadsheet, do we upload them to the site and alert Manimal or there a different process?
Just send them to me

I don't see an option for attaching a file to a PM nor do I see your email address in your profile, Manimal. Am I missing something?

At his profile it says 'E-mail adress" beside that one it says "E-mail Manimal", right click that link and choose "Copy e-mail adress" or something. Otherwise the adress is shown at the bottom of your browser's window.

Leeman14 · Post by **Leeman14** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:54 am

joehelmer wrote:
Leeman14 wrote:
Manimal wrote: Just send them to me

I don't see an option for attaching a file to a PM nor do I see your email address in your profile, Manimal. Am I missing something?
At his profile it says 'E-mail adress" beside that one it says "E-mail Manimal", right click that link and choose "Copy e-mail adress" or something. Otherwise the adress is shown at the bottom of your browser's window.

Thanks.

Actually, I did look there and the field was blank. I just checked it again and it's still blank.

It's no problem now... Manimal emailed me so it's fine. Unless it's me, the field in his profile next to 'Email Address' is still blank.

Cheers,

Leeman

Post by **McQwak** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:25 pm

WAS prospects sent. I hope they're correct and want you wanted.

Post by **Manimal** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:37 pm

McQwak wrote:WAS prospects sent. I hope they're correct and want you wanted.

Thank you! They look fine and I will soon add them to the db. If you want to you can do another team

Post by **Manimal** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:42 pm

Leeman14 wrote:
joehelmer wrote:
Leeman14 wrote:
I don't see an option for attaching a file to a PM nor do I see your email address in your profile, Manimal. Am I missing something?
At his profile it says 'E-mail adress" beside that one it says "E-mail Manimal", right click that link and choose "Copy e-mail adress" or something. Otherwise the adress is shown at the bottom of your browser's window.
Thanks.

Actually, I did look there and the field was blank. I just checked it again and it's still blank.

It's no problem now... Manimal emailed me so it's fine. Unless it's me, the field in his profile next to 'Email Address' is still blank.

Cheers,

Leeman

Sorry, I had it hidden. It should be there now for anyone wanting to send me their work

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:33 pm

I just wrapped up my research on Boston Bruins prospects and emailed them to you, Manimal.

Post by **Manimal** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:55 pm

bruins72 wrote:I just wrapped up my research on Boston Bruins prospects and emailed them to you, Manimal.

I got it and it looks great. Thanks!

WallyWallcakes · Post by **WallyWallcakes** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:18 pm

I'm really liking the progress here. I'm definitely interested in helping out, but have a few things on the go right now that I need to see to completion.

If and when there are still teams available to research upon my own personal projects completions, I will definitely step up and help out.

I've got my eyes on those Flamers, unless someone else is stepping up...

Great job, everyone!

Most Excellent Bro · Post by **Most Excellent Bro** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:29 am

Hey could someone post an example of a completed sheet? I wouldn't mind comparing some of the things that I've done to other people. Thanks!

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:57 am

Most Excellent Bro wrote:Hey could someone post an example of a completed sheet? I wouldn't mind comparing some of the things that I've done to other people. Thanks!

I e-mailed you an example.

bestrafer7 · Post by **bestrafer7** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:03 am

Most Excellent Bro wrote:Ahhh thank you, that makes sense!

To help you out a bit, use http://www.redwingscentral.com/ They have a written analysis of all the Red Wings prospects and they update the site frequently.

rfroese · Post by **rfroese** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:42 pm

Question on the Islanders, Stefan Ridderwall did not sign this summer though he was offered a contract. it was my understanding that he was now a UFA, but on HF he is listed as a member of the Islanders organization. Is he considered an Islanders prospect or a UFA as far as this update is concerened?

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:04 pm

rfroese wrote:Question on the Islanders, Stefan Ridderwall did not sign this summer though he was offered a contract. it was my understanding that he was now a UFA, but on HF he is listed as a member of the Islanders organization. Is he considered an Islanders prospect or a UFA as far as this update is concerened?

Good call. His rights is no longer with the Isles. Feel free to update him, anyway

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:05 pm

He's not listed as a prospect on the Islander's official website. I'd lean towards saying he's a UFA now but if you don't get a solid answer here, you could always post the question on the Islanders board over at HFBoards.

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:11 pm

Ha! Beat you to it, B72!
Here is a good article regarding Ridderwall and rights in general
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2010/5/ ... all-goalie

rfroese · Post by **rfroese** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:12 pm

Manimal wrote:
rfroese wrote:Question on the Islanders, Stefan Ridderwall did not sign this summer though he was offered a contract. it was my understanding that he was now a UFA, but on HF he is listed as a member of the Islanders organization. Is he considered an Islanders prospect or a UFA as far as this update is concerened?
Good call. His rights is no longer with the Isles. Feel free to update him, anyway

Should I just update him with a permanant concussion? (Speaking of Injuries, what injuries are being added to the update DiPietro's groin/knee? Christopher Heino-Lindbergh's & Victor Fasth (Love how AIK went with the two most hurt goalies in Sweden this year))

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:17 pm

Manimal wrote:Ha! Beat you to it, B72!

Beat me to it AND had a better answer.

Post by **Manimal** » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:22 pm

rfroese wrote:
Manimal wrote:
rfroese wrote:Question on the Islanders, Stefan Ridderwall did not sign this summer though he was offered a contract. it was my understanding that he was now a UFA, but on HF he is listed as a member of the Islanders organization. Is he considered an Islanders prospect or a UFA as far as this update is concerened?
Good call. His rights is no longer with the Isles. Feel free to update him, anyway
Should I just update him with a permanant concussion? (Speaking of Injuries, what injuries are being added to the update DiPietro's groin/knee? Christopher Heino-Lindbergh's & Victor Fasth (Love how AIK went with the two most hurt goalies in Sweden this year))

No injuries in the update as they are unbalanced and can cause premature retirements