Popomundo - The TBL Punk Scene!

Post by **Calv** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:26 am

looks like we're mainly playing to teenage boys and adult men, what about all of the women

oxenhoper · Post by **oxenhoper** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:52 am

Calv wrote:looks like we're mainly playing to teenage boys and adult men, what about all of the women

That be April's doing.........

Post by **Minstrel** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:03 pm

Calv wrote:looks like we're mainly playing to teenage boys and adult men, what about all of the women

Market Segment Popularity

Teenage Boys 6%
Adult Men 6%
Teenage Girls 5%
Adult Women 4%

I don't see where ya get "mainly" from them figures? I think a punk rock group will always have more male fans, a pop or rock group would get more teenies. But then keep in mind our characters are still teenagers themselves...

My new song 'Wrong Way Johnny', turned out "sweet" but again due to the large number of musical seeds and low number of lyrical seeds the split on it crazy; The melody is incredible and the lyrics are below average. It's second rated for quality. It may have to do with though that I was average in health and mood when starting it. They say that that locks in when you begin and has a major effect. That's why when they pumped our mood and health to 100% I encouraged people to start new songs. Seems to hold water considering how well Jeb's turned out comparatively.

Since I'm still pretty high in mood/health I started the follow up/remake version of Tear it! and will use the same lyrics so we can have our anthem with a better chance for popularity

Post by **Minstrel** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:22 pm

Okay, I'm about to book The Dead Generation Vagabond Euro Tour preceeding our working on a single we're going to try and get some kind of notice in as many countries as possible (this is all on suggestion of Luke who is of course in Kong one of the biggest punk bands in the world).

So we'll be going London -> Paris -> Amsterdam -> Berlin -> Rome -> Barcelona -> Madrid -> Porto and back home

That will have us known in 8 countries and then home for Christmas

Post by **E5150_ca** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:50 pm

Minstrel wrote:Okay, I'm about to book The Dead Generation Vagabond Euro Tour preceeding our working on a single we're going to try and get some kind of notice in as many countries as possible (this is all on suggestion of Luke who is of course in Kong one of the biggest punk bands in the world).

So we'll be going London -> Paris -> Amsterdam -> Berlin -> Rome -> Barcelona -> Madrid -> Porto and back home That will have us known in 8 countries and then home for Christmas

ohh... better make that an extended stop in Amersterdam.

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:52 am

Heh, yeah I hope the tour doesn't go up in smoke at that point

but it's going to be a get famous or die tryin kind of tour. It's a pretty ballsy schedule so we'll see what happens come Christmas. Who knows maybe we won't be quite as outclassed as we think come the Cerebus competition

As for what I'm trying to do, it's simple. I just want us to be the baddest darn band in the land.

Post by **E5150_ca** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:20 am

I took the liberty of sticking Forced into our next show design, as we were playing some song called "an old song no longer in the repertoire", I wasn't sure of the quality of that one, and we should probably be on the safe side.

Usually I would let you handle this, but I think theres a cutoff date where we can't edit it anymore.

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:10 am

Yeah, we've got a jam for tommorow morning before we head out to LA where we'll be workin on Wrong Way Johnny to get it up to speed, the one-song jams seem to work pretty well so I hadn't adjusted the show yet. Because we'll add that one in as well.

Unfortunately it copies over your last show automatically when you book so the Tor/LA/London gigs all have that "song no longer in the rep" that we replaced in our first Toronto show with one of our new songs and then I added an extra slot for the second show with both new songs (Manchester and Across the Boarder). The lock-in is sometime the day of the show I think.

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:17 pm

Check out the 'Charts' menu -> Artists -> Best Newcomers

Post by **joehelmer** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:08 pm

Minty, can you buy me a copy of Basic Media Manipulation? Please?

Minty EDIT: Umm... no. If you get VIP I'll forward ya a grand towards it, but were I to buy a $3500 skill book for someone it would be for myself and I haven't becuase evn I don't have that kind of money really.

Post by **E5150_ca** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:24 pm

Minstrel wrote: Check out the 'Charts' menu -> Artists -> Best Newcomers

11th place sweet! I'd also like to point out only 2 or 3 other artists in the top 10 have more then one member. Probably alot mroe challenging for us as we have to depends on everyone to keep up to scratch, as opposed to just one or two people.

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:53 pm

I think that also cool is that even though NYC is a huge Punk market we're the only punk band in the Top 20

I do think that having a multi-member band is also a factor.

Post by **Calv** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:51 pm

I got a new apartment, I'll be giving people keys soonish. Completed the mother's wishes and got Basic Manners at 5*

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:02 pm

Back to the show set up since we haven't talked about that yet I don't think? Will make another good post to add to our Knowledge Base mini-posts, and speaking of whhich anyone who wants to type up a post on anything they've learned for experience or experimentation or reading the Popo forums whatever feel free to add it to the KB, that's not an admin-only thing

So, designing shows:

You have to have your shows designed or your show will fail. You do the first one and it copies in your last successful show when you book new gigs.

Shows have to have at least three songs or they will fail, while eight songs seems to be the magic number you have to add to a show for the system not to knock down your rating because of it.

You can add 'extras' to the show but if you do too many you'll get the "Too much happened during the show" message in your review/show wrap-up.

You can add general and genre specific items (they're working on revamping this with a newer system soon), but watch you don't add things that are tied to a skill like playing a solo, or doing a dance or setting off some kind of stage/set design if you don't have a member of your band who is 5 stars at that skill. The current system will only grade you down for doing a dance and only having oen person with basic dancing at no stars so it's best to just leave those out for now.

Now TDG peeps; we again have two new songs to debut this wknd in LA. It would be cool to do one each night. Jeb, I know you've already tweaked out first show to have a new song but why doncha design the rest of the show too and don't forget to add in the two new songs we first did in Toronto (Manchester and Across the Border). Cool?

Then someone else should rework the Sunday show to add the debut of Wrong Way Johnny along with all the other songs we've introduced lately. So go for it

I've been using us playing Tear it! followed by the "The band takes off some clothes" I think it is option from the general as kind of a 'signature moment' in a TDG show, so while I don't know if that does anything I think we should keep that but do whatever you think works for the show lineups.

Post by **E5150_ca** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:11 pm

Minstrel wrote:
Now TDG peeps; we again have two new songs to debut this wknd in LA. It would be cool to do one each night. Jeb, I know you've already tweaked out first show to have a new song but why doncha design the rest of the show too and don't forget to add in the two new songs we first did in Toronto (Manchester and Across the Border). Cool?

Then someone else should rework the Sunday show to add the debut of Wrong Way Johnny along with all the other songs we've introduced lately. So go for it

I've been using us playing Tear it! followed by the "The band takes off some clothes" I think it is option from the general as kind of a 'signature moment' in a TDG show, so while I don't know if that does anything I think we should keep that but do whatever you think works for the show lineups.

What a freaky coincindence, as you were typing that up I was makeing some modifications. I'll go back take out Johnny though.

Post by **Minstrel** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:32 pm

That is wierd

I don't know if we get any kind of credit for debuting new songs but I figure since were still a new band no point in doing two new songs in one night, right? We should have 10 songs for this gig and 11 for the next I think with all the songs in the rep each night. As I said I'd like to keep the playing of Tear It followed by the taking off of clothes as a "bit" that we do during shows. And I think the beer thing is just to give us the "TDG drinks a beer on stage" message, so I think if anything we'd be docked in show quality drinking beer all nght after leaving the show though I like the idea I think we gotta keep it a bit more basic

Feel free to work ahead to the London shows with all four new songs if ya like as those are really old setlists at this point

Post by **B. Stinson** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:28 pm

Ahhhh!! This is killing me!! I keep getting 'auto-moved' to the hamptons and it's messing with everything. I just let five hours pass so I could jam... only to find out that I was moved to the hamptons, which "dissolved" my jam session. -- Five hours gone, $100 spent, and zero progress made on anything.

Post by **Minstrel** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:53 am

That is annoying

I don't know why you're getting auto-moved as that should only kick in when people are inactive

I'd to thank all the faithful dedicated workers at The Punks in the Hall for their hard work. Congratulations, you all can now proudly claim you work at a perfect club in NYC!

I gave everyone raises

Re: Shows, I revamped our first LA show since I'm not sure when that lock-in happens

It will be our first show playing to over 300 people

Post by **E5150_ca** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:17 am

Recent diary events:

Celebrated my birthday.

Why didn't anyone tell me? We coulda had a few rounds.

Edit: Minty it appears I bought out your stock of Canadian Whisky, probably wanna ge that re-stocked.

oxenhoper · Post by **oxenhoper** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:27 am

Stinty have you got spare time thing set to pick flowers, that might be why you get moved to the hamptons.

Post by **Minstrel** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:59 am

Happy Birthday Jeb!

I stocked a dozen bottles fer ya!

Post by **B. Stinson** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:15 pm

Stinty have you got spare time thing set to pick flowers, that might be why you get moved to the hamptons.

I think that's what's causing it, because I had a "picking flowers on the countryside" update right before my jam finished.

Though, I wish I would have know ahead of time that picking flowers in my spare time is important enough to yank me from a $100 jam session.

Post by **Minstrel** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:43 pm

I think it's because it's the only "free time" mission that requires you to physically move to a location to attain an item (the flowers) so there's really no other way they could do it as you have to move to get the item.

So if you're at a jam I'd change to something else to be sure

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:46 pm

B. Stinson wrote: Ahhhh!! This is killing me!! I keep getting 'auto-moved' to the hamptons and it's messing with everything. I just let five hours pass so I could jam... only to find out that I was moved to the hamptons, which "dissolved" my jam session. -- Five hours gone, $100 spent, and zero progress made on anything.

Do you have "pick flowers" set as one of your priorities? If you do, every time there is an update it takes you to the Hamptons.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:48 pm

oxenhoper wrote:Stinty have you got spare time thing set to pick flowers, that might be why you get moved to the hamptons.

DOH! If I had read the rest of the thread before posting, I would've seen you had already said this.