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Attributes improving after reaching PA

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:46 pm
by TurboJ
Two quick questions. What attributes can increase after a player reaches his Potential Ability?

Some mentals should be able to improve slowly even late into their career, right? But can any technicals improve? I guess for centers the faceoff skill can. Anything else?

I had a look for the first time at my players' hidden attributes through the EHM Editor, and for some players it would seem that there can be some improvement in some skills even though the editor already shows them being at their PA. Anyone can verify this?

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While we are at the subject, what exactly determines the fact that a 30-year old player is supposed to perform better overall than a 19 y/o player with the same visible attributes? Is it simply some of the hidden mentals having slowly improved over the years? Or is there some hard-coded system in the game that makes this so?

One more question; what determines the player's ability to maintain his abilities at old age? I mean some players are still showing relatively little decay even at 38-40 years, and some drop quickly at 34. Has natural fitness anything to do with this phenomenon?

Thanks.

Attributes improving after reaching PA

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:17 pm
by nino33
TurboJ wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:46 pm I had a look for the first time at my players' hidden attributes through the EHM Editor, and for some players it would seem that there can be some improvement in some skills even though the editor already shows them being at their PA. Anyone can verify this?
Yes, I can verify this (saw the same thing in testing I did). I don't recall what details I posted at the time; I didn't pursue it to try to figure out more


TurboJ wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:46 pmWhile we are at the subject, what exactly determines the fact that a 30-year old player is supposed to perform better overall than a 19 y/o player with the same visible attributes? Is it simply some of the hidden mentals having slowly improved over the years? Or is there some hard-coded system in the game that makes this so?
I don't believe there's anything hard-coded to make it so.
Consistency & Offensive Role/Defensive Role are hidden and very impactful. Consistency alone could account for the difference you're describing.

Natural Fitness (recovery from fatigue) is hidden too.
Other hidden Attributes that aren't categorized as Mental Attributes that could make such a difference are Player Role, Pass Tendency, and Important Matches (how the player plays on important games)...Versatility (the ability to play in an unfamiliar position) could be a factor too

Attributes improving after reaching PA

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:40 am
by TurboJ
nino33 wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:17 pm Other hidden Attributes that aren't categorized as Mental Attributes that could make such a difference are Player Role, Pass Tendency, and Important Matches (how the player plays on important games)...Versatility (the ability to play in an unfamiliar position) could be a factor too
Thank you for replying!

So, do we know which hidden attributes are able to improve with time and which are static?

Thanks again!

Attributes improving after reaching PA

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:25 pm
by nino33
TurboJ wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:40 am So, do we know which hidden attributes are able to improve with time and which are static?
Yes; AFAIK these are all still correct (see last post) https://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/v ... 4&start=25