Late season tactics problems.
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:28 am
Hello everybody, looking for a little help with tactics selections. I understand this subject is a bit tired on these boards, but I think, at least, that I'm asking something relatively new.
After deciding I had made one too many poor trades in my first career I've decided to take another stab at getting the Maple Leafs back to their rightful place as an elite team. I still haven't quite gotten comfortable with the tactics settings so this time around I decided to try someone else's solution to the problem, the "slapshot tactic." I had read someone referring to using these tactics as the equivalent of the "I win the stanley cup button," (Probably as a gripe more than anything else.) and sure enough from September to the end of December I found my team destroying other teams' defense. Sundin was repeatedly player of every length of time they hand out the award for, and I was almost feeling like this was too easy.
However, January came 'round and I found myself on the wrong end of a few 5 game streaks, generally with only one win in between. What looked to be a 50+ win campaign is now sputtering. I have read that the AI can and will start to readjust to what you're doing and that this sort of slump is common, but even with changing my tactics around quite a bit I can't seem to find that sweet spot again. As it stands, it looks as though I'll still slip into the playoffs, but it seems rather disappointing to be heading into my playoff run in such a slump after leading the league for the better part of the season.
I've read the guide, so I know that its best to tailor your tactics for your lines and I have some vague idea of what attributes to look for when doing so, but one thing that might help me is to know the no-no's. Are there any particular combinations of things that just aren't sound at a basic level? For instance, if I'm backchecking hard with lots of puck pressure, is it bad if I also have tight gap control? I dunno, I just feel as though I might be combining things in a way that confuses the players. I love hockey, but I've never really understood it all that deeply, thus my interest in this game. Its been pretty bad though, I've had a hard time generating offense and am also letting an inordinate amount of goals slip by. In some games it is close, but I still am not scoring as much as I was previously. (I'm not sure if I've ever had a game in either career that could be said to have involved good defense.)
Anyway, I'll post my lineup and a rough outline of my current tactics(not the "slapshot tactic") to give you all a better sense of what I'm dealing with.
Forwards (LW C RW):
1. Modin Sunin Hunter
2. Madden, Brind'Amour, Jiri Novotny
3. Wellwood, Oleg Kvasha, Arron Asham
4. Ryan Hollweg, Paul Gaustad, Blair Betts
I realize I've gutted the franchise this go around, but between the ridiculous price tags on tucker, o'neill, and peca, and the worthlessness of every other player on the roster, I feel I'm justified. Also, the only deal I've made within the last few months was to dump the underperforming Tucker for a first round draft pick, so I'm pretty sure my more recent problems can't be blamed on a ruined team chemistry. The first line was performing extremely well together, and still does to a large extent.
Defensive Pairings:
1. Kaberle McCabe (I know McCabe is also over-priced, but it seems like sacrilege to split them up.)
2. Leopold Kubina
3. Eminger Tyutin
Goalies:
Niitymaki
Raycroft
Current tactics:
Most lines revolve around this basic idea with a few tweaks, except for the fourth which is a checking line:
Equal forward usage and line matching
Man Coverage
Mentality: offensive
Aggressiveness: Normal
Backchecking: hard
Gaps: tight
Pressure: easy
hitting: normal
Tempo: high
Passing: creative
Shooting: selective
Dumping: very rarely
free flowing
wings cross
triangular
1-2-2
1-1-3
collapse
basic
lopsided
Any thoughts?
After deciding I had made one too many poor trades in my first career I've decided to take another stab at getting the Maple Leafs back to their rightful place as an elite team. I still haven't quite gotten comfortable with the tactics settings so this time around I decided to try someone else's solution to the problem, the "slapshot tactic." I had read someone referring to using these tactics as the equivalent of the "I win the stanley cup button," (Probably as a gripe more than anything else.) and sure enough from September to the end of December I found my team destroying other teams' defense. Sundin was repeatedly player of every length of time they hand out the award for, and I was almost feeling like this was too easy.
However, January came 'round and I found myself on the wrong end of a few 5 game streaks, generally with only one win in between. What looked to be a 50+ win campaign is now sputtering. I have read that the AI can and will start to readjust to what you're doing and that this sort of slump is common, but even with changing my tactics around quite a bit I can't seem to find that sweet spot again. As it stands, it looks as though I'll still slip into the playoffs, but it seems rather disappointing to be heading into my playoff run in such a slump after leading the league for the better part of the season.
I've read the guide, so I know that its best to tailor your tactics for your lines and I have some vague idea of what attributes to look for when doing so, but one thing that might help me is to know the no-no's. Are there any particular combinations of things that just aren't sound at a basic level? For instance, if I'm backchecking hard with lots of puck pressure, is it bad if I also have tight gap control? I dunno, I just feel as though I might be combining things in a way that confuses the players. I love hockey, but I've never really understood it all that deeply, thus my interest in this game. Its been pretty bad though, I've had a hard time generating offense and am also letting an inordinate amount of goals slip by. In some games it is close, but I still am not scoring as much as I was previously. (I'm not sure if I've ever had a game in either career that could be said to have involved good defense.)
Anyway, I'll post my lineup and a rough outline of my current tactics(not the "slapshot tactic") to give you all a better sense of what I'm dealing with.
Forwards (LW C RW):
1. Modin Sunin Hunter
2. Madden, Brind'Amour, Jiri Novotny
3. Wellwood, Oleg Kvasha, Arron Asham
4. Ryan Hollweg, Paul Gaustad, Blair Betts
I realize I've gutted the franchise this go around, but between the ridiculous price tags on tucker, o'neill, and peca, and the worthlessness of every other player on the roster, I feel I'm justified. Also, the only deal I've made within the last few months was to dump the underperforming Tucker for a first round draft pick, so I'm pretty sure my more recent problems can't be blamed on a ruined team chemistry. The first line was performing extremely well together, and still does to a large extent.
Defensive Pairings:
1. Kaberle McCabe (I know McCabe is also over-priced, but it seems like sacrilege to split them up.)
2. Leopold Kubina
3. Eminger Tyutin
Goalies:
Niitymaki
Raycroft
Current tactics:
Most lines revolve around this basic idea with a few tweaks, except for the fourth which is a checking line:
Equal forward usage and line matching
Man Coverage
Mentality: offensive
Aggressiveness: Normal
Backchecking: hard
Gaps: tight
Pressure: easy
hitting: normal
Tempo: high
Passing: creative
Shooting: selective
Dumping: very rarely
free flowing
wings cross
triangular
1-2-2
1-1-3
collapse
basic
lopsided
Any thoughts?