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Two-Way Clause

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:28 am
by mconnection
I have been trying to figure this puzzle out for awhile, but I have had no luck so hopefully someone on this board could explain it to me.

I have offered numerous players on a two way contract, which they have accepted. Surprisingly, some players (over the age of 20) do show the "Send to (AHL) (ECHL)" option, but most don't.

It always results in having to waive them, although it clearly indicates in their information bar that their contact clause is on a two-way.

Anyone can help me out on this?

Much thanks in advance.

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:45 am
by mconnection
Seems like I found the answer to my own question by researching some of the old topic; hence I am going to have to ask a whole new question.

How would you sign a player so he is strictly for your farm, while providing depth for your NHL team as a call-up?

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:49 am
by B. Stinson
Two-way clauses don't play any role in determining minor league eligibility. They only permit you, the NHL team, to pay a player less of his salary if and when he does go down there.

EDIT:
Seems like I found the answer to my own question by researching some of the old topic; hence I am going to have to ask a whole new question.

How would you sign a player so he is strictly for your farm, while providing depth for your NHL team as a call-up?
To freely move him around like I think you want to, look for players old enough to be allowed in the minors(20 or older), but young and inexperienced enough to not yet be eligible for waivers. That way, you can send him right down to the AHL/ECHL without waiving him, and then recall him without re-entry waivers. At least, I think so... :-k

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:20 am
by mconnection
Ok, let's get to the root of all this.

The only reason why I even care about who plays in my farm team is because I believe how well your prospects do at their respective level, whether it be the AHL, the college level, or major junior, affects their development.

Is this true, or am I wrong?

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:13 am
by Hypnotist
One way to get veteran players to mentor your prospects is to manage the farm team(s) and sign them directly to AHL contracts. No waiver problems and it shifts their salary off the NHL books and onto the AHL/ECHL books. Most AHL teams that are reasonably stocked with prospects, only need a handful of players signed so you can overpay a bit if you have the budget. If you don't want to micro-manage the farms, just hire a decent AGM and go on extended vacations. Hope this helps.

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:28 pm
by vilifyingforce
That's making the assumption that he's running nhl/ahl. He might not be.

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:47 am
by Hypnotist
dybbuk wrote:That's making the assumption that he's running nhl/ahl. He might not be.
See mconnection's original posts where he specifically states he is looking to get players in the A and E. In the event that someone is NOT running a team in the NHL/AHL/ECHL sphere, simply substitute the acronyms to the appropriate League/Feeder League.

Controlling non-pro leagues like Major Junior is just a matter of how micro-managing you want to be.

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:33 am
by mconnection
Thanks a lot guys... as I have guessed, the only way to perform such task would be to manage multiple leagues.