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Good Enforcers?

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:38 am
by SeanSmash13
Hey folks,

so I'm looking for a decent/good FORWARD enforcer who is positionally respectable if possible? or just more enforcers... I only know Raitus Ivanans, Derek Boogard, George Parros, and George Laraque. I usually have one forward set to fight(Parros or Laraque, although this game, Boogard), and one defenseman, usually I like to use Sean O'Donnell or Matt Greene. I know O'Donnell isn't exactly an enforcer, but he isn't afraid to throw down either... and Matt Greene is just a big body who hits well and is strong but doesn't have potential aboutve 3rd pairing D-man, so he is no big loss in a pentalty.

My problem with the forward Enforcers: they don't have reasonable skill for me, I set my lines to all have equal ice time to make sure my prospects play enough to develop, so even with an enforcer on the 4th line, his skill drops the line he is on usually to be poor both defensively and offensively... So I'd at least like an enforcer who is respectable as a player... Like a 10 for pokecheck and positioning, or a 10 for stickhandling and passing... just not a liability.

Any suggestions? Even so, just throw out your enforcer it will help my future games.

And yes I am a homer, I know Kings & Ducks players a lot better than the other 28 teams, so offer away.

Sean

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:08 am
by sjsharkz
Well on my Sharks game I use Jody Shelley, I've had him on the 4th line mostly and he usually puts up 10+ points, even had a little over 20 points! While not a super skater, he has decent stats for an enforcer.

Also I like to use Mitch Fritz, just because of his name :P and he is quite large and I've even had him on the all rookie team one Year...I found that quite funny.

Others I have tried that are good Colton Orr, Ryan Hollweg (though not a heavyweight) Chris Neil is also a handy player though at 1m is a bit expensive to use as an enforcer. Rob Davison is alright too but I don't like to use defenseman as enforcers.

I've heard some people like using Godard. But I usually have Shelley and then develop Fritz until Shelley retires or isn't filling his role in the team.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:35 am
by SeanSmash13
thank you, yeah Chris Neil is a bit (carey)Pricey for an enforcer but does have some definite skill. The guy I like best is Ryan Hollweg, well rounded enough not to be a liability, and very cheap(525k). Fortunately he's headed to free agency in a month(july 08, Kings game) so I'll definitely pick him up. a big :thup: for the response.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:43 am
by sjsharkz
No worries mate :)

Chris Neil is good because you can use him for spot duty on the second line. My only problem with Hollweg is he is too small to fight the heavyweights....Plus his attributes are a little to much compared to real life.

Colton Orr develops nicely aswell.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:55 am
by SeanSmash13
oh yeah Colton Orr is another good option,but in my game NYR is re-signing him right now(offered a contract) so I prolly won't get him untraded and I'd rather not trade for an enforcer. Have you ever successfully groomed an Enforcer from draft day to career?

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:59 am
by sjsharkz
I rarely see a decent enough enforcer to draft, so the closest I've gotten to developing one is Mitch Fritz, he is a huge man, and he had decent attributes, but cannot skate so I just put him on an intense skating schedule and I had him fill in on Thorntons line and he put up 30 points while up there, so he proved he can play.

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:50 pm
by selne
Another good one is Donald Brashear. He wins almost every fight in this game.
He is not the youngest but in his final years still a threat. :cry:

Maybe you should consider to match lines so that you have your 4th line against the opponent's 4th. That way your enforcers will play an avg. of 8 minutes and will face some other enforcers more than talented players. 8-)

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:55 pm
by LoXish
I don't even bother with an enforcer... I roll 4 offensive lines and give them all equal playing time.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:15 am
by Franck
Speaking of enforcers, it seems like you can only have 2 players in your team set as allowed to fight at a time, been trying to have Dingman, Betts, Hollweg and Gaustad set to allowed but everytime I check their settings again only two of them are set as allowed. :-?

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:51 am
by SeanSmash13
LoXish: I assume your results are just as good without an enforcer as with?

Franck: I just set 5 to be allowed and/or encouraged, and it stuck and were allowed to in game, and after the game it was still set to fight.

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:44 am
by thunderbug
SeaSmash I've done it both ways. It all depends on the style you like to play and how deep you are.

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:14 pm
by TheBigM
I'm using John Tripp in my game. He's a nice defensive player and seems to hold his own in the fighting department. I set him as an aggressive hitter and his average rating is very good for a fourth liner (7.5+).

M.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:37 am
by LoXish
SeanSmash13 wrote:LoXish: I assume your results are just as good without an enforcer as with?

Franck: I just set 5 to be allowed and/or encouraged, and it stuck and were allowed to in game, and after the game it was still set to fight.
More or less,

Higher scoring games (on both sides, even with Luongo, Lungqvist or MAF, they won't be winning the Vezina) -- it's not just an enforcer thing, I just like to play a very offensive game.

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:51 pm
by CrockerNHL
Chris Dingman is a man! :-D He is a 3rd or 4th liner with decent PK skills and costs you only about $500K p/y.
Dingo fights and Dingo scores too...:fight:

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:19 pm
by Franck
Gaustad can fight in the game and he's capable of bringing home some Selke trophies aswell. :thup:

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:48 am
by matt44
Dingman is the best in terms of output, but I like to have him on the ice as he's a decent 2-way forwards, escpecially on a checking line. I use Scott Parker, comes dirt cheap, wins most of his fights and does ok on the PK too.

Plus...........he's the Sherrif!! ;)

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:03 pm
by cdnsk8tr
i like to use boogard because he has decent stats although hes not much in the skating department. Odd though in my one game playing on my fourth line he had about 30 points while being second in pims so apparently he does have some offensive flair in him. the two years before he had 20+ points as well

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:26 pm
by deathknot
Boogyman in my game is about to break the record for PIMs in a single season, he might reach 600 PIMs easy... unless i switch over to my other forward who is more of a skilled forward.. ummmm do you think i could train boogyman into a defenceman spot... not like i'd want to kill my killer d tho. i have 4 top 10 defenceman and 2 good up and comers... meaning i have a lacky pricey forwards... my highest paid forward is herrik zetterberg at 2.75m. most are 450-990.. all my cap is put into d and goalies

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:57 pm
by Seca501
Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond!

Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:38 pm
by The Hutch
I control the Canucks and the Maple Leafs in my game. Chris Dingman has been an excellent enforcer for Vancouver, while Todd Fedoruk has been doing a very good job for Toronto.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:13 pm
by madball
The one's i've had most success with are Brian McGrattan, Jody Shelley, Derek Boogaard, Colton Orr. Although I did edit Mirasty, Tremblay, Cormier and MacIntyre in various franchises just coz I like my enforcers and those four are either never in the game or not even really AHL calibre.

Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:27 pm
by binchnunker
In my recent game I'm encouraging Darcy Hordichuk to fight...

on 4th Line, 19GP, 1G 4A, 336 PIM, +2 and a 7.37 AVR

Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:29 am
by MacKenzieGilmore
John Tripp is someone I often use as my enforcer. he has descent offensice attributes and is a good fighter

Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 8:33 pm
by matt44
Its a fine line between getting realistic PIMS/Fight ratio to getting 17pts every game.

Currently got Scott Parker & Kip Brennan on my 4th line and trying to find the correct balance.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2009 4:50 pm
by mulla14
Eric Cairns!! I love this guy i really do. stats wise he might as well be invisible to be fair but since ive signed him and had him beserk and hitting and fighting i haveny lost in about 10 games and his rating in very game has been 8 except 9 in one and 7 in another1 i play him as 3rd line defense man!