EHM The Blue Line

I saw a queston for the 'Infamous' Slapshot tactic in another, now locked, thread.
I couldn't find it myself anymore, so I went through my notes on tactics and player management and managed to find there.


Here is the setup, and I quote: (these are not my design!!)

Team Orders
Forward Usage: Normal
Defender Usage: Normal
Power Play: Favor 1st
Shot targeting: Not Specified

1st Line

40 seconds/Man
Mentality: Very Offensive/Offensive/Normal
Aggressiviness: Normal
Backchecking: Hard
Gap: Very tight
Puck Pressure: Heavy
Hitting: Normal
Tempo: High
Passing: Creative
Shooting: Heavy
Dump: Rarely


Breakouts: Free Flowing
Neutral Zone Offense: Crisscross
Offensive Zone: Overload Slot
Forecheck: 3-2
Neutral Zone Defensive: 1-1-3
Defensive Zone: Open
Faceoffs: Basic

2nd line
40 seconds/Man

Mentality: Offensive/Normal
Aggressiviness: Normal
Backchecking: Very Hard
Gap: Very tight
Puck Pressure: Heavy
Hitting: Normal
Tempo: High
Passing: Normal
Shooting: Heavy
Dump: Normal


Breakouts: Positional
Neutral Zone Offense: Positional
Offensive Zone: Overload Slot
Forecheck: 3-2
Neutral Zone Defensive: 1-1-3
Defensive Zone: Positional
Faceoffs: Basic


3rd line

30 seconds/Man
Mentality: Normal
Aggressiviness: Aggressive
Backchecking: Hard
Gap: Very tight
Puck Pressure: Heavy
Hitting: Hard
Tempo: High
Passing: Safe/Normal
Shooting: Normal
Dump: Often


Breakouts: Positional
Neutral Zone Offense: Positional
Offensive Zone: Overload Slot
Forecheck: 3-2
Neutral Zone Defensive: 1-1-3
Defensive Zone: Collapse
Faceoffs: Basic

4th Line
30 seconds/Man

Mentality: Normal
Aggressiviness: Aggressive
Backchecking: Hard
Gap: Very tight
Puck Pressure: Heavy
Hitting: Hard
Tempo: High
Passing: Safe/Normal
Shooting: Normal
Dump: Often


Breakouts: Board Play
Neutral Zone Offense: Positional
Offensive Zone: Overload Slot
Forecheck: 3-2
Neutral Zone Defensive: 1-1-3
Defensive Zone: Collapse
Faceoffs: Basic


Powerplay
60/40 seconds/Man

Mentality: Very Offensive
Aggressiviness: Normal
Backchecking: Normal
Gap: Normal
Puck Pressure: Heavy
Hitting: Hard
Tempo: Normal
Passing: Creative
Shooting: Heavy
Dump: Normal


Breakouts: Positional
Neutral Zone Offense: Positional
Offensive Zone: Funnel
Forecheck: Positional High
Neutral Zone Defensive: 1-2-2
Defensive Zone: Positional
Faceoffs: Basic

Personal Orders

Goalies: set goalies on defensive mentality with safe passing.

D-Men: You might wanna try set your offensive D-Men on Normal mentality and Normal passing and defensive d-men on defensive mentality with safe passing.

Forwards: You might want to click the join rush order on your wingers at least.

These personal orders are down to you whether you use or not. It depends what kind of players you have at your disposal.

On a sidenote, using tactics like these that are not custom-built for your team and players will take away some aspects of the game. Even if they do work, I discovered that you will not learn the strengths of your team. You will be a lot better team if you manage to work out who's good at what and tune your tactics around this.

This one should have been in the "Official Tactics Thread", when you wrote this it was just below this, at the top of the non-sticked threads, you shouldn't have been able to miss it.

joehelmer wrote:This one should have been in the "Official Tactics Thread", when you wrote this it was just below this, at the top of the non-sticked threads, you shouldn't have been able to miss it.

As this is a thread about a particular tactic (rather than tactics more generally), I think it's fair to keep a thread devoted to one particular tactic.

How does this tactic perform in EHM 07? I know it performed well in '05 (or was it '04?) but that certainly doesn't mean it'll work with EHM 07's updated game engine.

It was more Batdad's post in a other thread where there was a user asking for it and Batdad told him to go to the "Tactics thread" so I thought this would be there as well.

I had every intention to post this in that particular 'Tactics' thread. Unfortunately I made the mistake of pressing the wrong button. As I am not able to delete threads or posts, I can't do anything about it myself.

Anyway...
Recently I have been managing the OHL team London Knights. With the players I have playing there, I have been trying the Slapshot Tactic for a year and have had very mixed results; from winning 5-1 to losing 2-6 against the same team. Naturally the obvious youth of the team plays a part there.

In the end I won the conference but was defeated in the semi-final of the playoff in game 7. I have noticed that I am able to figure out how to train youngster to their potential, but still unable to get the most out of the team on gameday, even with allegedly world beating tactics. I'll keep trying, but I am getting the impression that the young players are just not good enough yet to play and win consistently with this tactic.

It works in 07. In fact its what I suggest to new people who don't know how to manipulate tactics.

When I first started playing, I found that the Slapshot tactic was a good place to start and then from there you make little changes, see how it works for you, and then make more changes. It's a starting point and you can build from there. Just remember, if you make any changes to it, give it a good 5 or 6 games before changing again. Your players have to "learn" the new tactic.

I was the one that initially asked about this tactic and thanks for posting it again.

I was able to find a copy of it and gave it a shot with my Leafs team. It was very mediocre until i made some changes recommended by the guys in the Tactics thread. The changes advised were made to my PK unit and i started dominating to the point where i am going to the finals .

Tavares scored 102 in his first season playing 2nd line center and first line PK duties while Havlat lead the NHL in scoring with 120 so i do recommend it but additional tweaking is definitely needed.

Sometimes the powerplay with this tactic is insane.

I had 5 pp goals in one period today lol.

I agree the tactic is great with some PK changes. My Colorado game (Work game) i was able to win the cup the first season with this tactic as my team went on a tear in the playoffs.

The second season is not going well though as my team is completely mediocre which i expected first season but not after a cup winning season with minimal changes.

Has anyone noticed a decline in this tactic used across multiple seasons or is this something that occurs with all tactics?

As with all tactics, you need to shake things up occasionally. Teams start to figure you out.

What would you suggest for changes as far as this particular tactic is concerned.

I want to keep the basic concept of the tactic in that its high scoring but change it enough where i don't become "readable" by the A.I. .

Take a read through the Even Strength and Specials Teams Tactics threads. It was suggested to change up 'Breakouts' and 'Neutral Zone Offensive' occasionally.

Can anyone help me with the original 2005 version of the 'Slapshot Tactic'. I've been looking, but haven't had any success so far.

Looking for the file or for some advice?

The file would be absolutely fantastic.
My wife got the 2005 version as a surprise and I want to start of a new campaign with the tactic if I can.
Naturally a screendump with the settings will suffice, I will just copy it into the game.

bruins72 wrote:As with all tactics, you need to shake things up occasionally. Teams start to figure you out.

I was just thinking about this as you read it. Is there a defensive tactic that would likely "shutdown" the slap shot tactic?

Yep, but it's not a defensive one.

Penalties too high!!!!

anyone find a cure for all the team PIMS?

Hey.

Does anybody have the slapshot tactic for EHM 2005 version of the game, that could post it or send it to me?

Want to try out this tactic, have never played EHM before.. Have set ut my own tactic, but want to compare my results to what eventually this tactic could produce of results..

Regards, John.

tjodolf wrote:Hey.

Does anybody have the slapshot tactic for EHM 2005 version of the game, that could post it or send it to me?

Want to try out this tactic, have never played EHM before.. Have set ut my own tactic, but want to compare my results to what eventually this tactic could produce of results..

Regards, John.

Don't know about that tactic. But, my tactic is pretty offensive!

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Wroom wrote:

tjodolf wrote:Hey.

Does anybody have the slapshot tactic for EHM 2005 version of the game, that could post it or send it to me?

Want to try out this tactic, have never played EHM before.. Have set ut my own tactic, but want to compare my results to what eventually this tactic could produce of results..

Regards, John.

Don't know about that tactic. But, my tactic is pretty offensive!

Download section

Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic thread

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Hey, this looks really interesting... My only problem is that this is for EHM 2007, right? I currently have EHM 2005, not 2007... Do you have a tactic for the 2005 version of the game?

tjodolf wrote:

Wroom wrote:

tjodolf wrote:Hey.

Does anybody have the slapshot tactic for EHM 2005 version of the game, that could post it or send it to me?

Want to try out this tactic, have never played EHM before.. Have set ut my own tactic, but want to compare my results to what eventually this tactic could produce of results..

Regards, John.

Don't know about that tactic. But, my tactic is pretty offensive!

Download section

Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic thread

So, that was my advertising for this time

Hey, this looks really interesting... My only problem is that this is for EHM 2007, right? I currently have EHM 2005, not 2007... Do you have a tactic for the 2005 version of the game?

No, sorry. But, I think the games have the same game-engine. So, this might work there too.

Don't know about that tactic. But, my tactic is pretty offensive!

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Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic thread

So, that was my advertising for this time

Hey, this looks really interesting... My only problem is that this is for EHM 2007, right? I currently have EHM 2005, not 2007... Do you have a tactic for the 2005 version of the game?

No, sorry. But, I think the games have the same game-engine. So, this might work there too.

Thanx anyway. Decided to go for EHM 2007 instead, so can use your tactic now with my Penguins team

When you are searching for players, witch attributes are important for the following in your mind?

- Good centers
- Pacy wingers
- Top pair d-men
- Very good core second pair d-men
- Good goaltender

John.

tjodolf wrote:

Don't know about that tactic. But, my tactic is pretty offensive!

Download section

Red PlaymOver Barrage tactic thread

So, that was my advertising for this time

Hey, this looks really interesting... My only problem is that this is for EHM 2007, right? I currently have EHM 2005, not 2007... Do you have a tactic for the 2005 version of the game?

No, sorry. But, I think the games have the same game-engine. So, this might work there too.

Thanx anyway. Decided to go for EHM 2007 instead, so can use your tactic now with my Penguins team

When you are searching for players, witch attributes are important for the following in your mind?

- Good centers
- Pacy wingers
- Top pair d-men
- Very good core second pair d-men
- Good goaltender

John.

Good Centers

Overall strength of the team. Basically means he should be good at most things. Compared to the league he is playing in. Speed, deking, faceoffs, passing, stickhandling, slapshot, wristshot, balance, creativity. The lines best guy. The tactic is build around the guy in the middle.


Pacy Wingers

Speed, Acceleration
Balance
Slapshot, Wristshot
Off the puck
Agility
Deking
Stickhandling
Work Rate

Of course, more good things helps too.


Top Pair d-men

Kind of close to the criteria for good centers, but more focused on the defensive aspects of the game. So don't think too much on deking, deflections, faceoffs, off the puck, stickhandling and so on.

Checking, balance, Pokecheck, positioning, stamina, strength. And it helps with good slapshot, wristshot. Overall the best D-men on your team and among the better d-men in the league.


Very good core d-men

Players who are in general not the greatest on every ability, but solid numbers on most of the important things. Overall balanced guy, say they have all important attributes at 14-15+(or more). Something better, and a couple worse. Look at the total impression of the player. He is not the to provide rocket science, but provide assistance and cover.


Good goaltender

Focus on technical(everything on the right), then look at the other stuff. He should be around 17-18 in most things at technical.