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EHM stopped starting / Conflict with Zone Alarm

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:25 pm
by Alessandro
What happened: I was playing my old save with my league patch exe file. I forgot to use the normal exe as I incidentally deleted backups. So when on June 30th the leagues were updating, my game crashed. So I had no other chance to download and re-apply the 3.0.4 patch. I did it and OH MY. I click on the EHM shortcut, the game doesn't start. At all. I tried switching some exes from my archives (I have a collection of exe files due to the work on the patch/hex editing), the best I could get was a warning asking me to put in the correct CD-ROM :nerd:
I tried playing around with the -small-screen command (or whatever it was, don't remember now), but no luck, the game doesn't start.

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:38 pm
by archibalduk
It sounds like you're running the CD ROM exe whereas I'm guessing you need the eLicense one.

Your best bet is probably to unlicense and uninstall the game. Then reinstall and relicense.

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:46 pm
by Alessandro
archibalduk wrote:It sounds like you're running the CD ROM exe whereas I'm guessing you need the eLicense one.

Your best bet is probably to unlicense and uninstall the game. Then reinstall and relicense.
Maybe. But how can I unlicense the game? I tried the "-unlicense" command, but it doesn't work (e.g. nothing happens when i click on it)

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:56 pm
by Alessandro
Ok so - I unlicensed the game, uninstalled, installed it back, applied the patch, licensed it again - still it doesn't start :( :(

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:42 pm
by archibalduk
Is there anything you've changed to your computer between the last time EHM worked and the first time it crashed? Maybe you installed/removed software, updated your anti-virus, etc?

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:05 am
by Alessandro
No, I didn't. I'm running out of ideas ](*,)

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:31 am
by Viking
I have this problem too. I first got the weird "Sorry, could not get a license at this time. Please try running this program later. 23 0"-message, and after an complete reinstall of Windows 7, nothing happens when I click the EHM 07 exe.

Edit: Seems like running the game with Windows 98-compability still gives me the "Sorry, could not get a license at this time"-thing, while nothing happens at all when running the game with XP, or higher, compability.

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:16 am
by archibalduk
The first thing to check is that the eLicense service is running on your computer:
1. Click on the Start Menu and right click on Computer (or alternatively right-click on My Computer from the desktop if you have XP/Vista). Click on Manage":

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2. Click the small plus sign (+) next to "Services and Applications"

3. Click "Services"

4. In the right hand pane, browse the list of Services until you find "LicCtrl Service" and double click on it.

5. In the dialogue box that opens, check to see if the Service Status indicates that it is "Started". If it is not, click the "Start" button. If the status indicates "Started", click the "Stop" button and then the Start button to reset the service:

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6. Click the OK button and then exit the" Manage" application.
Does this work?

Another potential cause of the problem is Window's DEP (Data Execution Prevention). I recall another user having very similar difficulty and he was able to fix it by adding Runservice.exe to the list of exceptions (steps 1 - 3 below). I have taken the instructions from Battlefront's eLicense FAQ page and have modified for EHM:
You may need to adjust your Data Execution Prevention settings in Windows (a built-in security feature of Windows, available since Windows XP Service Pack 2). These settings may be interfering with the functioning of the eLicense copy-protection/DRM software, which in turn causes nothing to happen when you attempt to launch the game.


For Windows XP:

1. Go to the Start Menu and open up the Control Panel.
2. Open up the "System" control panel.
3. Click on the "Advanced" tab.
4. Click on the "Performance" section's "Settings" button.
5. Click on the "Data Execution Prevention" tab.


For Windows Vista & Windows 7:

1. Go to the Windows/Start Menu and open up the Control Panel.
2. Open up the "System" control panel.
3. Click on the text that says "Advanced system settings" in the menu column to the left.
4. Click on the "Performance" section's "Settings" button.
5. Click on the "Data Execution Prevention" tab.


Once you have gotten to the "Data Execution Prevention" tab the following instructions are universal to Windows XP, Vista and Windows 7:

1. Verify that "Turn on DEP for essential Windows programs and services only" is selected. If it is not, select that option and click "Apply" and then try and run the game.

Note: Even if you see that option checked already, go ahead and uncheck and then recheck it to ensure that its activated!

2. If the game still does not launch (or you still get the error message), then go back and select the other option "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those I select" and click the "Add" button to add exceptions to DEP. You will be presented with the 'Open' file dialog box where you will need to browse for the following files:

3. All games will need "Runservice.exe" added as an exception (which is the executable file for the 'LicCtrl Service'). This will be found in the 'C:\Windows' directory. If you do not find this file, then the game may not have been licensed yet or something else may have happened to the file. You will have to manually copy the missing files to the Windows directory (and you may need to launch the File Manager with the 'Run as administrator' selection in Windows Vista and Windows 7).

4. Here's a list of the file(s) that you may also need to add as DEP exceptions for each game. The directories provided here are the default installation directories. If you have installed into a custom directory you will need to locate that directory. The directories listed here will be for installations on 32-bit versions of Windows (the most common). For 64-bit versions of Windows change the "\Program Files" directory to "\Program Files (x86)":

ehm2007.exe - C:\Program Files\Sports Interactive\NHL Eastside Hockey Manager 2007

5. Once you have added the appropriate exception, click "Apply" and then reboot the computer and try to run the game again.

Vista & Windows 7 users: make sure that when you run the game that you have also either right-clicked and selected "Run as administrator" from the popup menu or that you have modified the Properties of the launching shortcut to "Run this program as an administrator"!

6. On some occasions these DEP settings may not "take" when initially applied. You may need to "Delete" the exceptions you have added and then re-add them. Once you have done that, reboot and try the game again once you've booted back up. If the game still doesn't launch try deleting the exceptions one more time and re-adding them again (and again, rebooting to have the settings take effect). If the game still refuses to launch there may be something else interfering with eLicense that is NOT DEP-related.

7. If making the DEP-related changes (and the required reboots) still does not allow the game to run, then you may have something else interfering with the game or eLicense. The most common culprits are anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-spyware, firewall and other internet security programs (some are even browser add-ons). You may need to temporarily disable these programs or add exceptions to them for eLicense ('Runservice.exe') and the game (using the above listed executable files) to see if this makes any difference. On occasion even temporarily disabling these programs is not enough and they continue to interfere. The Windows Firewall and Microsoft Defender programs rarely have issues with our programs and eLicense, so they are usually not the culprit (so far).

Sample of what the DEP page should look like:

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Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:59 am
by archibalduk
I also noticed these interesting posts from the eLicense thread:

CrockerNHL wrote:Apparently I have some problems playing EHM07... though did nothing unusual. :doh:
When I click on the EHM icon on my desktop to open up the game, a small window pops up saying:
"Sorry, could not get a license at this time. Please try running this program later.
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Does anyone know what this means and how I can fix it? :dunno: I did as it suggested and
I tried to run it later...it didn't work. :-(
Searched community forums - it's a known problem, no solution : ](*,)

My system: Win XP, EHM upgraded to 3.0.4 ver. long ago.
Any sort of help would be much appreciated :help:
V4ND3RP00L wrote:I ran into this problem as well and if you email the eLicense place. They will send you the download link for a small patch to fix that problem from happening again.

They say it was something that should have been included in the actual game patch, but it wasn't fixed before the last patch was put out for download.

Anyway, I figured I would just let you know that ahead of time.
Original link: http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 850#p52850

I've also seen mention on the OOTP site that disabling your antivirus can resolve things: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/board/t ... start.html

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:02 pm
by Alessandro
I tried all this, no luck. Set compatibility with Win XP SP3, it worked.
Thanks archi

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:55 pm
by archibalduk
Alessandro wrote:I tried all this, no luck. Set compatibility with Win XP SP3, it worked.
Thanks archi
Great news! :joy:

I wonder if this will work for Viking too. Although he did mention he'd tried XP+ compatibility already. :-k

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:53 am
by Viking
I have tried all of the above now except from that small patch, and nothing helps. I hope to hear back from eLicense soon.

Thanks for the effort, though. And I am glad it works for Alessandro.

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:58 am
by Alessandro
The fact is that I didn't get that "Sorry, no license" stuff. My EHM simply stopped booting.

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:42 pm
by hs0n
My game stopped working.. When i click Lload game i get this error : "Fatal v3.0.4 database.cpp 4133"

anyone know whats wrong?

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:30 pm
by archibalduk
hs0n wrote:My game stopped working.. When i click Lload game i get this error : "Fatal v3.0.4 database.cpp 4133"

anyone know whats wrong?
This belongs in a different thread (here). I'll put my answer here but will move it over to the correct thread once you've read it:

When you say that you load a game, do you mean creating a new game or reloading an old game?

A) If it is reloading an old game then it is likely that it is corrupt. There's not much that can be done unfortunately. All I can recommend is that in the future you use rolling saves, don't use compression and ensure you use the save safely option (you will find all three of these settings in the Game Preferences).

B) If it is when you create a new game: Have you changed or edited the database? Are you using a crack?

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:06 am
by hs0n
archibalduk wrote:
hs0n wrote:My game stopped working.. When i click Lload game i get this error : "Fatal v3.0.4 database.cpp 4133"

anyone know whats wrong?
This belongs in a different thread (here). I'll put my answer here but will move it over to the correct thread once you've read it:

When you say that you load a game, do you mean creating a new game or reloading an old game?

A) If it is reloading an old game then it is likely that it is corrupt. There's not much that can be done unfortunately. All I can recommend is that in the future you use rolling saves, don't use compression and ensure you use the save safely option (you will find all three of these settings in the Game Preferences).

B) If it is when you create a new game: Have you changed or edited the database? Are you using a crack?
It's when i try to start a specific game, and it happened before. A little bit disturbing when you have to restart new games all the time.

I will try and find that option your talkning about, thanks for the help! :)

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:14 am
by Viking
Viking wrote:I have tried all of the above now except from that small patch, and nothing helps. I hope to hear back from eLicense soon.

Thanks for the effort, though. And I am glad it works for Alessandro.
Got a patch from e-License, but the game still won't start. I click the ehm2007.exe, then I get the "rotating thingy" by the mouse pointer for a few seconds and then nothing more happens. Very frustating. I start to think the problem is ZoneAlarm. The horrors began after I installed the latest version of it. Can't find the EHM exe in the list of programs, and I can't add it as an exception in the firewall either.

Re: EHM stopped starting - help me

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:05 pm
by Viking
The free version of ZoneAlarm was what blocked EHM. I uninstalled it, and now the game starts. Life is sweet!