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Need comments about a trade offer...

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:23 pm
by Blugam
Since my Montreal Canadiens are doing bad in my season, I decide to start the clean up of the team. I have trade Sundstrom to New Jersey for a 4th draft pick in 2006. And now, it's the Bonk's turns. I send an offer of trade to all teams for Bonk. Many have reject this, some sent bad offer. But I still with 7 respectable offers. And I don't know wich of these one to conplete.

Pittsburgh : 2nd pick 2006

Carolina : 4th pick 2006 (Calgary)
4th pick 2006 (Leafs)

NY Rangers : Petr Prucha
7th pick 2006

Nashville : Simon Gamache
Mark Eaton

Kings : 2nd pick 2006

Columbus : Mark Hartigan
Francois Beauchemin

Minessota : Alex Henry
Dwayne Roloson

What do you think about that? Personnaly, I will look closer for the Kings 2nd pick (since they lower than Pittsburgh). But, I don't know if it will be better the 2nd pick or 2 4th pick.

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:29 pm
by E5150_ca
Kings pick, Unless Prucha is VERY good in your game.

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:58 pm
by flea
I also would go for the 2nd round picks!!! Thats really not bad for Bonk!!!

Go for it!!!

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:17 pm
by Minstrel
Allow me to add that you should snag the 2nd rounder. Not only does it give you a shot for a decent player it also completely removes Bonk from salary consideration without putting anything back leaving you room to resign and/or bring in free agent players. :thup:

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:28 pm
by munky
Minstrel wrote:Allow me to add that you should snag the 2nd rounder. Not only does it give you a shot for a decent player it also completely removes Bonk from salary consideration without putting anything back leaving you room to resign and/or bring in free agent players. :thup:
Bingo.

If your goal is to rebuild the team, trading Bonk for a second rounder is the best route. You get to dump an old guy who is grossly overpaid without adding any salary to your payroll. It gives you some room to bring in free agents that will actually produce and earn their money.

Can you tell I'm not a Bonk fan? :-p

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:42 pm
by Harper
Go for the second round pick.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:13 am
by hluraven
If you're running the Smetana update then pick Prucha as he is fantastic there. If normal rosters, go with the second rounder

what I do...

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 2:00 pm
by Blugam
Finally, I have take the 2nd round pick. Since all of you suggest me that choice and I use the regular database.

Some days after, I have trade Mark Streit for a 3rd round pick. Not so bad too.

Thanks all for your help.

One more time

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:27 pm
by Blugam
Hi again! I need your help one more time. For my goal to rebuild the Habs dynasty, and after have trade Sundstrum, Bonk and Streit, I have decide to trade one who did not do the job than I wait from him : Théodore.

I have sent de trade suggestion for him to all teams. But only 8 teams show interest for him. I'm 14th in East (1 point in front of Atlanta). But trades are not very interesting. So, I want to know if I must trade him or keep him. The trades :

Chicago : 4th picks 2006 (Pittsburgh)
4th picks 2009
4th picks 2010

San Jose : 4th picks 2007
4th picks 2008
4th picks 2009
Jim Fahey

Columbus : 2nd picks 2006
3rd picks 2006
4th picks 2007
Mark Hartigan
Francois Beauchemin

Edmonton : 2nd picks 2006
3rd picks 2007
4th picks 2007 (Islanders)

Nashville : Simon Gamache
Mark Eaton
Chris Mason

Washington : Brent Johnson
4th picks 2006 (Detroit - last in the league)
4th picks 2007
4th picks 2008

Florida : Alexander Karpovtsev
Jamie McLennan

Pittsburgh : 2nd picks 2006
3rd picks 2007
4th picks 2007
Josef Melichar
Brooks Orpik

To help you, here's Théo's stats :
36 game play
10 victory, 19 lost, 7 lost in overplay (with 2193 minutes of play)
107 goals against (with 1191 shots on him)
2.93 goals per game
efficacity : 0.910
2 shoutouts
1 assist

Personnaly, I am more interested to go with a trade with Pittsburgh or Washington. But not for what they offer... but for 2 guys than it's not necessary to name. But the question is : are they interested to trade them? I don't think so. Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:09 pm
by E5150_ca
Personally, I would keep him, or wait untill the trade deadline atleast, then you can send counter-offers and such and get responces right away.

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:36 pm
by hluraven
The Pittsburgh offer. Orpik is an excellent cheap defender, Melichar is ok, and the picks are useful

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:43 pm
by Blugam
I have decide to wait to trade Théo. But now, I am nearby of being fired by Montreal (we are in middle of Janyary 2006). I have a little more time (after ask more time to rebuilt the team). I start to look closer for made a trade. I need a key LW player. I have look around the league for some that look interesting. But no one is available. So, I would like to know if you have some suggestion of LW to bring on my team.

Here is my team :

T. Pleckanec - S. Koivu - A. Kovalev
A. Perezhogin - M. Ribeiro - M. Ryder
C. Kilger - J. Bulis - M. Lapointe
p. Dagenais - S. Begin - A. Zednik

(S. Corson - J. Hedström)

A. Markov - M. Dandenault
S. Souray - M. Komisarek
F. Bouillon - R. Hainsey

(C. Rivet)

J. Théodore
C. Huet

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:07 pm
by E5150_ca
You could alwyas try teaching Ryder or Kovalev to play LW.

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:18 pm
by shakeable
I havent played this game very much but i tried it with Montreal for about 10 games before starting over with another team.

I had

Zednik -Koivo- Kovalev

In the 1st line and Zednik had about one point per game. So my advise woud be to move Zednik to 1st line Left Wing.


Second line i think i had Bulis -Ribeiro- Ryder
But dident have any success.

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:23 am
by Systemfel
Okay, I also need some trade advice now.

I'm the Leafs, and I have two offers on the table. One includes Lindros, the rights to young d-man Phil Oreskovic, Alex Suglobov and my 1st rounder. In return I would get Ladislav Nagy from Phoenix.

The other offer is Jeff O'Neill and the 1st rounder in exchange for Shane Doan (who's making twice as much as O'Neill, $3M).

Getting rid of a soon-to-be UFA and injury prone guy like Lindros would be great, especially since I probably won't be able to re-sign him for reasonable cash.

Nagy's contract runs through the next season as well. This season he's only making $2M and in 2006-2007 he's gonna be making $2.4M.

If I trade for Doan, the lines would look like this:
Tucker - Sundin - Doan
Steen - Allison - Kukumberg
Maltby - Lindros - Kilger
Ponikarovsky - Stajan - Domi

And if I land Nagy:
Tucker - Sundin - O'Neill
Nagy - Allison - Kukumberg
Maltby - Steen - Kilger
Ponikarovsky - Stajan - Domi

What should I do? :dunno: (I'm actually leaning towards the Nagy offer)

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:15 pm
by inSTAALed
In my dynasty with the Coyotes, Doan had about 40 more points than Nagy and they were on the same line with Comrie.

Hope that helps :-D

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:14 pm
by E5150_ca
Personally, I wouldn't take either trade. I'm not sure about EHM, but both of those prospects in the Nagy deal are studs in real life.

And O'Neill is quite good in the game, dispite how horrible he is in real life.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:28 am
by Systemfel
Anyway, I took the Nagy offer and ran. :)

Those prospects didn't seem very good in my game...

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:05 am
by hluraven
I wouldn't take either offer, unless you are going for a strong cup run this season.

The Nagy trade is a huge trade for a second liner, I wouldn't do Nagy for Oreskovic and Suglobov alone probably, add a first and its a big overpayment, add Lindros and its a blockbuster for a second liner. Unless you are desperate to be rid of Lindros, and aren't interested in the future, this is a huge overpayment IMO.

The O'Neill trade also seems a bit steep, Doan is good, but not a huge upgrade on O'Neill, so given the salaries, the trade would be even player for player. To add a first makes it another overpayment.

Either trade would be worth doing if you feel that it is the one trade that will win you the cup, the future is irrelevent when you win the lot, but unless you are serious contenders this year, both trades cost too much IMO.