4th line in games

kiko148 · Post by **kiko148** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:27 am

hi guys, i have a small problem, my forth line doesn't play in the games although a put them in the starting line-up. but after each game, the players from the forth line don't get any game rating. what do i make wrong? any ideas? thanks

Post by **B. Stinson** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:40 am

How do you have your 'forward usage' set in your tactics?

It sounds like it might be set to "just three", which uses only the top three lines.

kiko148 · Post by **kiko148** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:09 pm

hmm it's overload. but i didn't know this option is about that. and whats overload for?

Post by **McQwak** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:43 pm

You should check the TBL Guide that is refered in this post. There's a lot of tips about how to use tactics.
"Overload" option means that only the first line plays. The options are Normal/Just Three/Just Two/Overload which equals to 4lines/3 lines/2 lines/1 line, imho.

kiko148 · Post by **kiko148** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:56 pm

thanks i just did that

pens66 · Post by **pens66** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:37 pm

McQwak wrote:You should check the TBL Guide that is refered in this post. There's a lot of tips about how to use tactics.
"Overload" option means that only the first line plays. The options are Normal/Just Three/Just Two/Overload which equals to 4lines/3 lines/2 lines/1 line, imho.

I'd say that 'overload' is in a way similar to 'normal', but puts more emphasis on the 1st and 2nd line than the 'normal' setting. With 'overload' your 3rd and 4th line may get ice-time, but only if there are very few stoppages in play or something like that.

kiko148 · Post by **kiko148** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:55 pm

hmm so i put both def and off on normal, but i play with unit tactics and the ice time ist like this: 1st 60 sec, 2nd 60 sec, 3rd 40 sec, 4th 20 sec. but at the end of the game ihave ice times similar to this: 1st and 2nd around 26 min each, 3rd and 4th around 4 min each. then i changed the untis ice time to 40 40 30 20, but then i got the same ice times as before (no change). so now i'm wondering hos must i set them so the lines get times like this for example: 1st - 20 min, 2nd - 20 min, 3rd - 15 min, 4th - 5 min.. something like that?
same is for defenders too. first 2 pair get both something like 25 min each and 3rd pair get 10 min (although i put the 3rd pair defs to 3rd and 4th lines).

so is there a way to change these things ?

pens66 · Post by **pens66** » Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:09 pm

Well, there's also the special teams. When your first liners also play on the 1st PP unit and 1st SH unit they will obviously log a ton of minutes. Same for defensemen...

kiko148 · Post by **kiko148** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:51 am

well my specials are my firsth 2 lines and i made them to play equally on the specs. so the players from 1st and 2nd should really make similar ice times, but right now the first is making more.

Richie Daggers Crime · Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:04 pm

kiko148 wrote:so is there a way to change these things ?

Change the setting to Equal. No matter what, your 4th liners are gonna play less than 1st liners by a significant amount.