The Official TBL Practice Thread

RomaGoth · Post by **RomaGoth** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:36 pm

timmy_t wrote:Finally, I renamed one of the practice slots "Light Day." Skating and Conditioning are on medium, Tactics on intense, and everything else is on light. I use it when my guys are coming back from injury and other times when their condition is less than 90%.

I never put guys on light practice. I don't even use it. I saw somewhere earlier in this thread that a "light" practice is worse for your guys than resting them. I have tested that theory over an entire season and a half, and so far it is absolutely true.

hcdfanatic83 · Post by **hcdfanatic83** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:59 pm

I read through the entire thread and i did a forum search but i couldnt find an answer to my problem.
I just dont find the option to adjust the intensity of the training. I go to the practise screen but all i can do is select the different training types(skating, condition,shooting and so on) for every player, and below that i can select which coach handles the different part of trainings and beside that there the option for how much percentage they spent on the even strength, powerplay, and pk. someone in this thread said that you have to scroll down but there is nothing to scroll down. someone else said that you have to click on "schedule" in the practise screen but i just cant find it.
Can someone please help me? Maybe with a screen shot?

Thank you in advance

(sorry for my bad english, but my native language is german)

Richie Daggers Crime · Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:40 am

Go to the Practice screen. Then, hit the "Schedule" dropdown on the upper right. Choose which schedule you'd like to adjust from that dropdown. The area where you adjust the intensities will then be at the bottom.

hcdfanatic83 · Post by **hcdfanatic83** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:22 pm

Richie Daggers Crime wrote:Go to the Practice screen. Then, hit the "Schedule" dropdown on the upper right. Choose which schedule you'd like to adjust from that dropdown. The area where you adjust the intensities will then be at the bottom.

YOU'RE THE MAN!
how could i not see that???

Post by **visualdarkness** » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:59 pm

It's not that hard to miss. I always forget about how you make changes if I haven't played for some time and it takes a while before I remember how to do it again!

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:59 pm

So, I have 7 players left on my team, compared to the team I had 6 seasons ago:

Rosenqvist 2019 vs. Rosenqvist 2025

Hammarstrom 2019 vs. Hammarstrom 2025

Lamoureux 2019 vs. Lamoureux 2025

St. Pierre 2019 vs. St. Pierre 2025

Paterson 2019 vs. Paterson 2025

Saarela 2019 vs. Saarela 2025

Crosby 2019 vs. Crosby 2025

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:08 pm

Wroom... I'm not sure I follow what this has to do with practice regimens.

Wroom · Post by **Wroom** » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:47 pm

bruins72 wrote:Wroom... I'm not sure I follow what this has to do with practice regimens.

I hoped for some remarks about development

I can't say that I'm really pleased about the training. Only part in the game that is really frustrating.

Post by **timmy_t** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:21 am

Wroom wrote:
bruins72 wrote:Wroom... I'm not sure I follow what this has to do with practice regimens.

I hoped for some remarks about development

I can't say that I'm really pleased about the training. Only part in the game that is really frustrating.

I know it can sometimes be boring to read all of the posts in a thread, but on TBL it's really important, and I think it would help you figure out what to do. I never have a hard time developing my players and almost everything I do is in this thread.

Could you tell us how you train your players and maybe we can work from there?

whatwasthat · Post by **whatwasthat** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:26 am

Wroom wrote:So, I have 7 players left on my team, compared to the team I had 6 seasons ago:

Rosenqvist 2019 vs. Rosenqvist 2025

Hammarstrom 2019 vs. Hammarstrom 2025

Lamoureux 2019 vs. Lamoureux 2025

St. Pierre 2019 vs. St. Pierre 2025

Paterson 2019 vs. Paterson 2025

Saarela 2019 vs. Saarela 2025

Crosby 2019 vs. Crosby 2025

I've noticed that you have the technical skill Getting Open named Off The Puck, what version of EHM 2007 do you play?

Post by **visualdarkness** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:52 am

whatwasthat wrote:
I've noticed that you have the technical skill Getting Open named Off The Puck, what version of EHM 2007 do you play?

I would guess it's a difference from the NA-version as my Swedish one also says "Off the puck".

Post by **Manimal** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:05 am

whatwasthat wrote:
I've noticed that you have the technical skill Getting Open named Off The Puck, what version of EHM 2007 do you play?

Getting open is American English, Off The Puck is British English(I guess, it is called just English when you choose languages)

marecone · Post by **marecone** » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:42 pm

Just went through all pages here. Fantastic stuff. I have played some 15 seasons from Zagreb to Sparta to Pittsburgh and national teams but I have always disregard training. I did have great success in game but that was due to one tactic found here and not my wisdom.
After reading these pages I will definitively take care of practices. New challange is up so I really want to try all this stuff.

Basicaly to summarize your tips:
All intesive during summer
3 int and 4 med during season but changing between few schedules to keep players on their toes
If needed tone down a bit
Goaltending is good for positioning
Don't coach same stuff all year all players will get bored
Be aware of playing time (lots of playing time will perhaps lead to less intensive trainings)
After the game always check players health. If it says potential injury, rest him
During play offs tone training down
Don't forget to set up % for general and PP and PK lines
During season tone up general %

I guess all is said here and nothing is

. As many people discover playing this game; there is no certain formula that will bring success.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:00 pm

That pretty much sums things up!

I'm doing things a little bit differently this time around for the new challenge. Here are my practice regimens...

Fitness:

Conditioning - INT
Skating - INT
Tactical - INT
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - MED

Skating

Conditioning - MED
Skating - INT
Tactical - INT
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - INT

Shooting:

Conditioning - MED
Skating - MED
Tactical - MED
Shooting - INT
Off Skills - INT
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - INT

Off. Skills:

Conditioning - MED
Skating - MED
Tactical - MED
Shooting - INT
Off Skills - INT
Def Skills - INT
Goaltending - MED

Def. Skills:

Conditioning - INT
Skating - MED
Tactical - MED
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - INT
Goaltending - INT

Tactics:

Conditioning - MED
Skating - MED
Tactical - INT
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - INT
Def Skills - INT
Goaltending - MED

Goalies:

Conditioning - INT
Skating - INT
Tactical - MED
Shooting - None
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - INT

And then of course in the Off-Season I'll use everything set to INT. For training camp and preseason I've got everyone (except goalies) set to the Fitness regimen. I've got my General set to 70% and both PP and PK set to 15% each. I figure this will get everyone's skating and conditioning up to par and also teach them my tactics. The goalies are set to my Goalies regimen of course. I keep this as I listed for the first 2 or 3 months. Then I'll drop Conditioning and Skating down to MED for a month or two and then go back to INT for a month, and so on. For my Forwards and Defensemen, I'll switch them to Off Skills once the regular season starts and then I'll drop General down to about 40% and move PP up to 50% and PK to 10%. Then after a month I'll switch to Def Skills and move PP to 10% and PK to 50%. We'll see how things go from there. At that point I'll probably move to Skating for a month and bring General up to 60% and keep both PP and PK at 20%.

marecone · Post by **marecone** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:17 pm

This is my plan for defenders. First row is for stay at home defenders and 2nd one is for offensive defenders. Would this work? I am using all possible training regimes. Or perhaps, I should use less more often?

marecone · Post by **marecone** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 12:19 am

p.s. This would be just a general guide line and I would alter between different players. By tracking raising or droping of att I would personalize treining for each player. Basicaly main question is do I try to balance or do I train defenders defence and disregard let say shooting and off skills?

Thanks in advance

RomaGoth · Post by **RomaGoth** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:21 am

marecone wrote:p.s. This would be just a general guide line and I would alter between different players. By tracking raising or droping of att I would personalize treining for each player. Basicaly main question is do I try to balance or do I train defenders defence and disregard let say shooting and off skills?

Thanks in advance

I throw in a fitness regime every couple of months, usually right after Christmas (in-game) and sometime in April, prior to the NHL playoffs. This helps my players build up some stamina again during the season.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:43 pm

marecone wrote:p.s. This would be just a general guide line and I would alter between different players. By tracking raising or droping of att I would personalize treining for each player. Basicaly main question is do I try to balance or do I train defenders defence and disregard let say shooting and off skills?

Thanks in advance

I like to try to balance things out. Still give your defensive defensemen some offensive and shooting training because they need a break from training the other stuff. They'll get bored if they train the same things all the time and it will have an adverse affect on them. Don't overdo it with the offensive training for them though.

RomaGoth wrote: I throw in a fitness regime every couple of months, usually right after Christmas (in-game) and sometime in April, prior to the NHL playoffs. This helps my players build up some stamina again during the season.

Definitely a good idea!

jesusrocks150 · Post by **jesusrocks150** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:50 pm

How should my practices be for the offseason? Most of the time the players get tired and wind up getting injured when I practice them during the offseason (unless of course I rest them a few days a week).

Typically, once my season ends (either didn't make the playoffs or was eliminated from playoffs) I rest my players until the draft or free agency begins (either way, practice begins prior to preseason games).

I rarely even change the regimen - only change it if players need a rest or if attributes are falling in a certain area.

whatwasthat · Post by **whatwasthat** » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:57 pm

I have a question about the development of the physical attributes in players, what are the factors that effect how well a players physical attributes develop? Will a player with a maxed out CA develop faster or slower in the physical aspect?

blueshirtnParis · Post by **blueshirtnParis** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:18 pm

bruins72 wrote:That pretty much sums things up!

I'm doing things a little bit differently this time around for the new challenge. Here are my practice regimens...

Fitness:

Conditioning - INT
Skating - INT
Tactical - INT
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - MED

Skating

Conditioning - MED
Skating - INT
Tactical - INT
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - INT

Shooting:

Conditioning - MED
Skating - MED
Tactical - MED
Shooting - INT
Off Skills - INT
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - INT

Off. Skills:

Conditioning - MED
Skating - MED
Tactical - MED
Shooting - INT
Off Skills - INT
Def Skills - INT
Goaltending - MED

Def. Skills:

Conditioning - INT
Skating - MED
Tactical - MED
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - INT
Goaltending - INT

Tactics:

Conditioning - MED
Skating - MED
Tactical - INT
Shooting - MED
Off Skills - INT
Def Skills - INT
Goaltending - MED

Goalies:

Conditioning - INT
Skating - INT
Tactical - MED
Shooting - None
Off Skills - MED
Def Skills - MED
Goaltending - INT

And then of course in the Off-Season I'll use everything set to INT. For training camp and preseason I've got everyone (except goalies) set to the Fitness regimen. I've got my General set to 70% and both PP and PK set to 15% each. I figure this will get everyone's skating and conditioning up to par and also teach them my tactics. The goalies are set to my Goalies regimen of course. I keep this as I listed for the first 2 or 3 months. Then I'll drop Conditioning and Skating down to MED for a month or two and then go back to INT for a month, and so on. For my Forwards and Defensemen, I'll switch them to Off Skills once the regular season starts and then I'll drop General down to about 40% and move PP up to 50% and PK to 10%. Then after a month I'll switch to Def Skills and move PP to 10% and PK to 50%. We'll see how things go from there. At that point I'll probably move to Skating for a month and bring General up to 60% and keep both PP and PK at 20%.

Great write up but you confused me with the time-line.

You say for training camp and pre-season you have everyone on Fitness for "first 2 or 3 months" then you drop down to med for "a month or two" etc... then you switch "off skills once regular season starts". That would make the regular season starting in like January

Is this for a lock out year

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:48 pm

Nope. You've got to read it more closely. You're mixing combining elements of my Goalie training and my Skaters training.

I put all of my skaters on Fitness to start. I keep them there through training camp and preseason. The goalies are set to the Goalies regimen. Once the season starts, I switched the skaters to Off Skills. I kept the goalies as they are. Then a month later I change the skaters to Def Skill. The goalies are still on Goalie training. After 2 or 3 months of the goalie being on the Goalie training that I detailed, I switch their Conditioning and Skating to Medium.

alanschu · Post by **alanschu** » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:11 pm

I have been looking through this forum the past few days and I thought I came across a thread which stated which attributes never change (through practice or otherwise), but I cannot seem to find that page again. I know one is work rate, and I imagine stuff like Bravery and Flair never really change.

Anyone know definitively which of the attributes are static and do not change as a part of practice?

cazzman · Post by **cazzman** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:05 am

Hi

I have allways had my coach do the training but now Im going to try that myselfe, since the coach only use one setup and thats Generell.
I had another thread in another part but now I was looking thru this one and found lots of great stuff, but I wonder how often I should change the training style. If Im doing the Fitness, how many days should they train this before Im changing to another?

I tried a little yesterday, but allmost every player was loosing attributes and allmost none gained some, but I think that depends on that I had some settings on light.

harmonica · Post by **harmonica** » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:56 pm

Never go with light training in any group.

I go with 3 int and the rest general and then mix things up, including goaltending for everyone (does wonders for positioning).

Also, for players who are not playing, I tend to set them up with all intensive. Even some players get that, as long as they can take it.

The key to get the best training is push your players as much as possible. They are no human, the amount of rest they need is limited. Push your training as hard as you can until you find that they are not at 100% for the next game. For guys who are soaking up minutes, this means creating lighter schedules for them.

Also, different coaching staff will get more out of the schedule, so fine tuning for every team and personal is needed.

Another effective tip is to train players with INT categories in skills they are weak in and need the most improvement. Their natural talents should grow normally. Also, game performance ratings are needed, players need to develope not just in stats, but in how they perform on the ice. This is why keeping a guy in the minors and then in the AHL for a few seasons is needed. As is ice time.

Another thing that works is schedule practise games in to help boost your teams morale and playing level. Smoke the opposition and keep your guys happy. It does help with training as everything is relative.

Remember, hard training 99% with a few days off here and there is better than light training.

Also, in the offseason, training everyone at full intensity.