EHM crashes when selecting a database for a new game

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Re: EHM crashes when selecting a database for a new game

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OH wow. :dunno: :-D

No wonder it does not work. Wow. Ugh. Wow. I have no words....wow. Who knew I could have no words?


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Tasku wrote:No worries. Should've seen it when you said the start date was 2003. You can get the 2007 version from the link in my post above yours. Then just do what we already instructed you to do: install the game, install the patch, install the rosters. Good luck and welcome to TBL! :-)

I installed

I downloaded patch to database

I downloaded update 4.1b to database, unzipped it

Double clicked on new icon to start game.......nothing.....like an empty icon.

I doubled clicked on icon in EHM folder....nothing

I don't have a heartbeat here..... :(
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The Avenger wrote:
Tasku wrote:No worries. Should've seen it when you said the start date was 2003. You can get the 2007 version from the link in my post above yours. Then just do what we already instructed you to do: install the game, install the patch, install the rosters. Good luck and welcome to TBL! :-)

I installed

I downloaded patch to database

I downloaded update 4.1b to database, unzipped it

Double clicked on new icon to start game.......nothing.....like an empty icon.

I doubled clicked on icon in EHM folder....nothing

I don't have a heartbeat here..... :(
I had my computer auto-troubleshoot, now its up. Its a trial version? huh?
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The Avenger wrote: Its a trial version? huh?
It's a trial version until you buy it! IIRC you get 6 months in-game for free to try it out...
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The Avenger wrote:
The Avenger wrote:
Tasku wrote:No worries. Should've seen it when you said the start date was 2003. You can get the 2007 version from the link in my post above yours. Then just do what we already instructed you to do: install the game, install the patch, install the rosters. Good luck and welcome to TBL! :-)

I installed

I downloaded patch to database

I downloaded update 4.1b to database, unzipped it

Double clicked on new icon to start game.......nothing.....like an empty icon.

I doubled clicked on icon in EHM folder....nothing

I don't have a heartbeat here..... :(
I had my computer auto-troubleshoot, now its up. Its a trial version? huh?

darn, well it all looks real nice, unfortunately i did not get updated rosters. Raycroft on T.O.? i followed the instructions. All the downloads are in the database folder together.....
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When you say you downloaed the patch...does that mean you downloaded it, placed it in the right folder, and then double clicked on it to run it?

If you have a choice of databases when you select "New Game" the patch has worked.....if not, it hasn't
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Oh boy. Noone tell him he may not be able to buy the full version anymore.

Ooops...FYI Avenger...some people are having success when they clich on purchase full version in game. Some are not.

And really curious how old you are...have you beat me and Cee BEe? Cee Bee is a little older than me...I am 42. (So old cannot recall how old he said he was...and that was just the other day...but I can remember what happened in 1976. Wow.
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I can remember '76 too....and I'll be 45 in May.
I think CeeBee's got us beat (IIRC he can remember the late '60s....hmmm, doesn't that mean he wasn't there if he can remember the 60s? HaHa)
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batdad wrote:Oh boy. Noone tell him he may not be able to buy the full version anymore.

Ooops...FYI Avenger...some people are having success when they clich on purchase full version in game. Some are not.

And really curious how old you are...have you beat me and Cee BEe? Cee Bee is a little older than me...I am 42. (So old cannot recall how old he said he was...and that was just the other day...but I can remember what happened in 1976. Wow.

Haha, born when Zeppelin was peaking! ;) My fav band all time!
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nino33 wrote:When you say you downloaed the patch...does that mean you downloaded it, placed it in the right folder, and then double clicked on it to run it?

If you have a choice of databases when you select "New Game" the patch has worked.....if not, it hasn't

I dont have a choice of databases. i ran the patch, it asks me what program to run it, i picked EHM07. Started the game and still raycroft on TO.
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Did it give you the option to choose your database when you started the game?
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When you select "New Game" you should be able to pick your database...When I click on "New Game" this is what I see...
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It goes right into the game, no addition menu

my minimal4.1 folder is unzipped and sits in my database folder. My 3.04 patch sits in my minimal folder with the update stats. the patch program runs from my EHM07 (the actual icon i start to double click and run game) I right clicked and tried starting from run as admin but nothing changed either
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The Avenger wrote:My 3.04 patch sits in my minimal folder with the update stats
I'm not sure what you mean by minimal folder....if you mean the patch is in the Manimal 4.1b database folder, then I think you've got the patch in the wrong place!

IIRC the patch should go in C Drive/Program Files (x86)/Sports Interactive/NHL Eastside Hockey manager 2007....where you have the data folder, the manuals folder, the readme files and the ehm2007 Application should be there....then you double-click the patch
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nino33 wrote:
The Avenger wrote:My 3.04 patch sits in my minimal folder with the update stats
I'm not sure what you mean by minimal folder....if you mean the patch is in the Manimal 4.1b database folder, then I think you've got the patch in the wrong place!

IIRC the patch should go in C Drive/Program Files (x86)/Sports Interactive/NHL Eastside Hockey manager 2007....where you have the data folder, the manuals folder, the readme files and the ehm2007 Application should be there....then you double-click the patch
i double clicked the patch, it asks to choose the program to use to open this file

i scroll though pick the EH icon, presto

Then.....it goes to start......

>unable to load fonts

>runtime error
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I just clicked my desktop icon for EHM07, it goes to the crenn where i pick "trial" then loads the game. It goes right to the main start-up menu, no option to pick upgraded roster game.
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Hmmm....can you access the game without using the shortcut? And then follow the instructions already given?
If you can, maybe you're supposed to right click on the patch and maybe then "Run" is an option you can select?
Sorry I can't be more helpful, it's been ages since I applied the patch

If not...then I'm afraid it's beyond me.....maybe it's because it's the trial version?
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So, when you double-click the .EXE for the 3.0.4 patch, it asks you what program to open it with? That definitely should not be happening. EXE files are a program themselves; They should just run. For example, when you double-click the patch EXE, you should see this:

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Click Setup, and it will then prepare the patch for installation, at which point you'll then see this:

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(Your version of EHM will be listed as 3.0.1 if you're on a brand new installation of the game)

And from here, you simply have to click Update, and it will update your game. Then you can exit the installer, and start playing EHM. But if your computer can't run the patch EXE, then there's something else going wrong that you'll need to sort out before you can think about updating rosters.
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I even remember the 50's though we didn't have a TV so I don't have a ton of hockey knowledge other than books, magazines and hockey night in Canada on CBC radio... BTW, welcome aboard Avenger. Hope you get things figured out cause this is an awesome game even if it's showing it's age, plus the work the guys are putting into the new Databases and other programs to improve the game are just downright IMPRESSIVE!!!!! :thup: :thup: :-D
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CeeBee wrote:I even remember the 50's though we didn't have a TV so I don't have a ton of hockey knowledge other than books, magazines and hockey night in Canada on CBC radio... BTW, welcome aboard Avenger. Hope you get things figured out cause this is an awesome game even if it's showing it's age, plus the work the guys are putting into the new Databases and other programs to improve the game are just downright IMPRESSIVE!!!!! :thup: :thup: :-D
100% agree, i loved this game once upon a time. My kids are getting older and i got so free time on my hands when my wife isn't all over me. Thanks for the props.

As for the game, i will delete the patch and re-download.

Does it matter that i re-named the folder to just Eastside Hockey Manager and that its its own folder, not in program86?
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The Avenger wrote:Does it matter that i re-named the folder to just Eastside Hockey Manager and that its its own folder, not in program86?
I could be wrong, of course, but yes, I believe that's a bad thing. You might be OK renaming the folder, but you should probably avoid it if you can. Your PC installed and "registered" the application to a certain location, and then manually changing that location (by renaming the folder) could be mixing things up.

Also, I don't think it's a good idea to move applications out of the Program Files directory. I've never attempted it myself, so again, I could be wrong, but I would imagine you're seriously mixing things up by doing so.
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B. Stinson wrote:
The Avenger wrote:Does it matter that i re-named the folder to just Eastside Hockey Manager and that its its own folder, not in program86?
I could be wrong, of course, but yes, I believe that's a bad thing. You might be OK renaming the folder, but you should probably avoid it if you can. Your PC installed and "registered" the application to a certain location, and then manually changing that location (by renaming the folder) could be mixing things up.

Also, I don't think it's a good idea to move applications out of the Program Files directory. I've never attempted it myself, so again, I could be wrong, but I would imagine you're seriously mixing things up by doing so.
ok, i'm deleting EVERYthing one last time.

I will down load new 07 game

download patch and update (it should attach auto without manual movements?)

download 4.1b update (what and where do i do with it then? I can't grasp the previous instructions from that point on)

be right back......
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Yes, starting from scratch is usually a good way to go. For me it's like an integral part of computer-science. When something doesn't work, disconnect everything, then re-connect and it starts to work. :-D

The whole process in a few simple steps:
1) Download the demo and install it. It will run for six months (in-game), then you'll have to purchase the full version to play any further (if that's possible at all, don't know what the game's status at this point is to be honest).
2) Download the 3.04 patch (for example from here). It should be an .exe file, so just double-click it and follow the on-screen instructions. If it isn't, and it doesn't have any other extension, maybe you should just add the .exe for it to work. Until you have the game successfully patched I'd say it's not a good thing to move anything. EHM depends on a fixed folder structure, so something not being where it should be might impede running the game itself. After you double-click the patch you should see the dialogue boxes Stinson posted above. The patch should (I presume) detect the correct filepath to EHM (if it doesn't, you'll have to find it yourself).
3) After you patch the game, download the roster update (for example from here). You'll get a folder, with a Read Me file and another folder (with the actual updated database files) inside. You should put the second folder (the whole folder) INSIDE the existing database folder (filepath: whereveryouputEHM/NHL EHM 2007/data/database), alongside the original database files.
4) When you do that, the next time you hit the New Game button you should get an option to choose which database to use.

Try to do that and report back. If it doesn't work report back too and say at which point you're having problems (and what they might be). Good luck! :thup:
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Círyatan wrote:Yes, starting from scratch is usually a good way to go. For me it's like an integral part of computer-science. When something doesn't work, disconnect everything, then re-connect and it starts to work. :-D

The whole process in a few simple steps:
1) Download the demo and install it. It will run for six months (in-game), then you'll have to purchase the full version to play any further (if that's possible at all, don't know what the game's status at this point is to be honest).
2) Download the 3.04 patch (for example from here). It should be an .exe file, so just double-click it and follow the on-screen instructions. If it isn't, and it doesn't have any other extension, maybe you should just add the .exe for it to work. Until you have the game successfully patched I'd say it's not a good thing to move anything. EHM depends on a fixed folder structure, so something not being where it should be might impede running the game itself. After you double-click the patch you should see the dialogue boxes Stinson posted above. The patch should (I presume) detect the correct filepath to EHM (if it doesn't, you'll have to find it yourself).
3) After you patch the game, download the roster update (for example from here). You'll get a folder, with a Read Me file and another folder (with the actual updated database files) inside. You should put the second folder (the whole folder) INSIDE the existing database folder (filepath: whereveryouputEHM/NHL EHM 2007/data/database), alongside the original database files.
4) When you do that, the next time you hit the New Game button you should get an option to choose which database to use.

Try to do that and report back. If it doesn't work report back too and say at which point you're having problems (and what they might be). Good luck! :thup:

Done all.

I extracted files once the 4.1b was physically moved and added into database file folder.

picked icon to run game, it started as per usual, no added menu to pick database, same ole, same ole. Darcy tucker on TO. :(
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When you go to the Preferences screen, at the top there should be the current version stated. What does it say? It should be something like EHM 2007 v3.0.4 (that's what I've got, at least).
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