The Official TBL Practice Thread

[Weasel]

So I have been playing around with practice routines now that I have found out I can change them around, and this is what I have come up with. It seems to work except for Seabrook whose spd seems to drop no matter what I have him doing (aging?).

Gen: all M except Goal = none
Skating: Cond & Skt = I, rest light
Shooting: Cond = L, Skt & tactics = M, Shoot & Off = I, Def = L
Off Skills: Cond = L, Skate = M, tac = I, shoot = L (?? hmm, error here ??), Off skill = I, D = L
Def skills: Cond = M, Skate = L, tac = I, shoot = L, Off = L, D = I
Tactics: Cond & Skate = L, tac = I, shoot = L, Off & Def = I
Fit: Cond & skate = I, rest = L
Goalies = default

Now that I have typed this out it seems like there are errors or holes, but reviewing the practice the players all seem to be turning green.

(BE NICE NOW!)

[bruins72]

Don't put anything to "light". Your attributes in those areas will drop. Everything should go to either Medium or Intensive.

[Primis]

As soon as they're done for the season, whether it's April and they didn't make the playoffs or it's June and they won the Stanley Cup, I switch them to my "Offseason" practice which is EVERYTHING set to Intensive. I don't take them off of that until their condition starts to really drop steadily in August.

So the Hell Schedule is still the gold offseason practice standard?

I get wildly-varying results with it. One year the kids will respond well, and the next a different group of kids will get nothing from it. I run it from the moment I'm eliminated until sometime in September, shortly before preaseason games start.

[PetrCzech]

Hello, I am sorry for stupid question, but.... how many coaches do you have and how many schedules is each coach practising? ... I have 6 coaches and everyone is on two schedules.... but NON of my players are improving... I have most of my plyers under 23, NHL, version 2005. Thanks for help

[philou21]

I try to get at least 5 coaches. I set them on 2-3 training depends on their strength. You should check if your coaches are set correctly. Like the one who is good in attack should be the one doing shots, skating. Your conditionning coach should've good discipline, motivation. An important attribute for all of the coaches I try to hire is determination and how they work with the younger player. If you have a young team this is extremely important, that stats should be at least over 14-15.

[tmratlif]

As soon as they're done for the season, whether it's April and they didn't make the playoffs or it's June and they won the Stanley Cup, I switch them to my "Offseason" practice which is EVERYTHING set to Intensive. I don't take them off of that until their condition starts to really drop steadily in August.

So the Hell Schedule is still the gold offseason practice standard?

I get wildly-varying results with it. One year the kids will respond well, and the next a different group of kids will get nothing from it. I run it from the moment I'm eliminated until sometime in September, shortly before preaseason games start.

My understanding is this won't do anything for the players. Maybe up till July or whenever the players take the summer off. I usually don't start any kind of practicing until around Mid Augest. Question by running this hard of a practice do you see an increase in injuries? Not the out 1 week type but the out 2-3 month type?

[batdad]

NOt really. And it does help them. Yeah it appears for awhile that they are doing nothing. But if you track attributes (there is a spreadsheet around somewhere) you will notice improvements in the players during the summer. Big time. Especially in positioning and defensive attributes. It depends on the player and coaching staff how much you get improvement wise. But it has been shown over and over that in the first off season (in particular) you can get massive improvements from players.

[philou21]

I don't know why but 2 of my prospects in my AHL team are complaining about their training. What that means? Is this the coach gives them the wrong training or something? They are still giving good performances and their condition is alright.

[batdad]

THey do not like the type of practice you have on it. I get it from some guys when I put them into my tactics sched, which is intense conditioning, intense shooting, intense defensive skill, and medium on the rest. I find those guys do not like the conditioning being on intense. I take them off that sched immediately because I think that they know what they need for training. Unless of course it is a Vladimir Krutov type player...but even then if they do not like it and are unhappy...they may eventually get widdled off at you and want out.

[philou21]

Well I don't managed my AHL team, that's what I don't understand, normally they don't complain with the AI. Anyway I took over the team just to see that they were on general training with everything on medium. I put them on the defensive training with 3 intense ( def, attack and skating ) and the rest on medium. We'll see the result.

[pinheirobcp]

Most of the times, at least with me, they complain when training a new position they deem unecessary.

I've had a guy once, he had all the attributes of an AWESOME defenseman, but was a LW/RW. So, he was 20yo, I tried to turn him into a defenseman. Very soon, he got widdled off , unhappy with me, wouldn't re-sign for any amount of money and I traded him the next summer...

[philou21]

No again........the training was on General with no positions training or anything else unecessary for the player.

[philou21]

Then again, 2 new guys are complaining about their training. What the hell is going on down there? Can the coach be the problem?

[pinheirobcp]

I'm out of ideas, for me it's always a matter of new position or too intensive training. Never seen anything other then that...

I'm just throwing a thougth here, but you told they're your prospects at the AHL level, right? What training are they assigned when they are called up? Maybe that's the training they're complaining about, some kind of in-game mess up.

I've seen this happen when the player is loaned to a junior club, when the player seem to mix things up in regards to unhappiness about the team/GM, since the team contracted and playing for are different.

[philou21]

Well at the training camp they are on the skating shcedule with 3 intensive and the res on medium and back in the AHL I put them on the defensive training with 3 intensive and the rest on medium. First I thought that maybe the AI changed their practice when I quit the team but when I took over the team again, the training are the same as before. First they were complaining about when it was only all medium, general training and now they are complaining with the defensive.

[Aahlstroem]

I've got a guy wich I'm pretty sure is the Mats Sundin regen and he has stopped developing. He has got some important attributes concidering training that isn't the best:
10 in Determination
10 in Work Rate

And he also has these Mental Characteristics:
Slack, Ambitious, Poor self-confidence

He has been playing on the fourth- and third-line and on the BP for two seasons. Could that be the problem? That he needs more ice-time? The Forsberg regen got 9 in Determination and Work Rate but has developed well, playing on the first line and first PP. My Head Scout Håkan Andersson says that he is a exellent prospect that needs more developement time to work on his skills. Could that mean that he needs more ice-time? Or is it just that he needs more time what so ever?

He also got a 5 in balance, how do you increase balance? Because he's not developing that at all.

[markiemark66]

Aahlstroem, all I can respond to is the 'more time to develop'. I believe that means send him down to a lower league where he will get more ice time at an easier level.

[Aahlstroem]

I'll try that. Thank you!

[Aahlstroem]

Allright, the Sundin regen got a season where he dominated in AHL but didn't develope anything. My scouts says that he still needs time in the minors so he'll get that. But in what team should he get the off season-practice? In the AHL-team where he's got a really good Average Rating or in the NHL-team that has got better coaches?

[philou21]

Every good prospect needs to train with the big team in the summer and in training camp. He will learn more this way.

[Job]

Is using the "Hell schedule" a bad idea during the season if your players don't get tired from it?

I have not noticed much of a difference in the cond. drop off of my players whether they're using the 3 INT, 4 MED setup or a 7 INT setup. At least not after about a month of using it. What's that weirdness from?

[batdad]

It is not weird. Should be the way, especially at the NHL level. AT some point though if you use it too long...you will end up with injuries. My guys only go on intense for all during the season when they have three days between games. Keep em rested.

[cazzman]

Hi

I wonder if someone have some tips for goalies. My both goalies are loosing on the fys. Mostly acc and speed, I rotate and the same goes for the goalies.
The goalies rotate from Goalie and condition- practice, and on goalies I have intense on goalie and skating. the condition I have Fys and skating. Everything else on these both are
set to medium.
But as I said, both my goalies are dropping on acc and speed so anyone knows how to get them better on this?

[suprvilce]

Hi. I'm not sure where to ask this but instead of making a new topic maybe this is the right place. What kind of assistant coach do i need so players will improve their skating. Does it have to be Conditioning-based or is technique-based and general also good? Does he have to have high level of discipline, motivating, does he have to have high coaching G/D/F? (I see lots of coaches get hired by AI teams with red in all 3 positions). Could really use a good conditioning coach to improve not only speed and acceleration, but also stamina and other physical attributes.

Thanks.

[capschmap]

I've been experimenting with a new practice regimen. So far so good.

At the beginning of each month, I set the practice reg to this:

Cond: Med
Skat: Med
Tactical: Intense
Shooting: Intense
Off Skills: Intense
Def Skills: Med

10 days later I set it to this:
Cond: Med
Skat: Med
Tactical: Intense
Shooting: Med
Off Skills: Med
Def Skills: Intense

Then, for the rest of the month I set it to a practice with Condition and Skating at intensive, everything else at Low. Rinse and Repeat when a new month begins. Does this seem like a good regime to you all?