Hot Prospects: The official draft/youth/prospects thread

[AustSaint]

Personally, for top prospects, they only make my team if on a weak team they are top 2 in their position at forward on the depth chart, or 3 on any others.
Duclair almost always busts for me though, only prospect I never have luck with

Cool, I will send him to the AHL to develop.

[lemming3k]

Shhh don't tell me he's a bust, he's a key piece of my puzzle!
Although given the trade AI at times I may not need him after all.

Btw, how are you guys doing with offering contracts to those you have trade rights for? I don't seem to have many players that want to sign, and I'm worried I'm just going to lose them.

[riazorblues86]

I manage to get Maxim Lazarev in 2nd round draft, then I signed him for entry level contract for 2 years and put him to AHL..

On that years, I manage to qualify for playoff, got 2 winger injured..called him for backup and guess what, 2 playoff games he manage to get 6 point as a rookie (3g, 3a)..and since that time, i played him regular next season and his attribute rise fast enough..

try check this guy..you won't regret it..

[redmongoose]

Yeah I am wondering about player development. In 2007 i thought guys developed too quickly (first off season...just boom) but now I am seeing a very very slow development of my guys. In the first year thought it was coaching in Lehigh Valley, but made changes and brought in stud coaches...seeing not much development.

Maybe we also need to play around with practice routines a bit. Maybe the stuff we used for 07 does not really work in EA. That would be good in my opinion. I have started to play around a bit to see. Adding a third coach to each skill in practice is one thing I will try for a month. Then moving to one coach in each skill. Just to see what happens

I do not think it is the practice stuff though, I just want to eliminate it. I think it is that it has been tuned too low, much like the AI trading went from one extreme to almost the other (Although I do not think it did really, just made it super tough, which is good in my mind)

Batdad, have you noticed any results? I have been following the old "Malhotra's Training Schedule" for EHM 07 with the new game. The players are performing OK, but their numbers don't seem to change at all. I'm wondering if someone is working on a new practice guide for this version of the game? I looked in the manual and what it said about practice was much more basic than Malhotra's guide, so I'm wondering if the old one is even applicable anymore.

[Named]

I use Malhotra's Training Schedule too and can confirm. Progress is very slow and only a few players but maybe it should be like that? I've 1-2 coach per training.

[lemming3k]

I've been using my own training and haven't noticed a change - but that might be because unlike FM this game doesn't show stat increases with arrows? At least I haven't seen any or any way to track development.
Would be handy if it showed so I can ensure my guys are growing.

[Koekenbakker]

I have the opposite. It seems some of my players develop more then I thought they ever would. For example Spaling who's not particulary a great player but hit 16 pokecheck, 16 positioning now.

I don't train 3 things on intensive, just 2. Figured that would be better considering "overplaying and overtraining" them.

[redmongoose]

I have the opposite. It seems some of my players develop more then I thought they ever would. For example Spaling who's not particulary a great player but hit 16 pokecheck, 16 positioning now.

I don't train 3 things on intensive, just 2. Figured that would be better considering "overplaying and overtraining" them.

How do you adjust that? Someone else mentioned that recently as well and I don't see how to control that ourselves.

[Koekenbakker]

If you go to practice and then press the drop down and select the training schedule you want to edit (for example fitness), you will see the different intensities for conditioning, skating, tactics, shooting, offence, defence and goaltending. You can change the intensities according to your needs and even rename a schedule. For Spaling I run high tactical and defence, rest on medium and no goaltending.

[Koekenbakker]

Also it seems that coaches are a bigger deal. I've signed awesome coaches and the progress seems better than when I used the coaches who were already part of the team when I took over control.

[batdad]

Slow and steady development for the most part. I have had couple guys make big jumps. One in the minors for the most part save for off season (big huge monster dman from Philly who was a 1st round pick), Taylor Leier. His positioning has jumped to 10 or 11 from 7 and his shot from 10 to 14 in the last season playing 3rd line minutes with the Flyers. Gotisbierre never had a jump. Others are just slow/steady development. Noone is dropping as long as on my roster the whole time with the regular practice schedules I use (I believe very similar to Malhotra although I have never checked)

Definitely the jumps for the most part are not coming as fast, and from what I can tell are coming at 21-23 years old instead of at 19-20.

But that is just in my game. Not sure about others of course.

[Jeppe28]

Hej,
I have finished my first season with the oilers and altough we reached the playoffs I have been able to get the first pick of the draft so i have McDavid. My question is, has anybody experience trying to get him to his maximal potential? And how quickly would you play him in he NHL? Watching his attributes I would say he is not quite ready in the beginning (dont want to give him like 5 min ice time in the fourth line as a checker). So should I leave him in junior hockey, call him up and put him to AHL or straight to the NHL?

[CeeBee]

At least 1 more year in junior. can't go to the AHL till he's 20 anyway and my experience is that rushing prospects hurts their development.

[nino33]

The development path/curve is different in EHM:EA in comparison to EHM07, and players are reportedly developing slower in many/most cases, but at this point it's not 100% clear what is intended and what is a "bug" - it'll be interesting to see the changelists in the next couple/few updates

Having said that, it does seem clear that with EHM:EA McDavid/Eichel need a boost, and will have it when the next roster update is released

[professorscribbles]

From what I noticed in the "simming to 2035" thread, mental stats for regens just aren't developing over time to match what the stars of 2015 have. That's something that definitely needs to be fixed; in Football Manager, simming half a century into the future doesn't impact the world's quality of footballing at all.

Also, I'm not sure if this is the thread for posting about GOAT youngsters, but does this kid exist in anyone else's game or is he a regen? Because he's passing like Joe Thornton at 15, and he's a freakin' defenseman. Might be a dumb question, but Football Manager had a better tell for finding regens because, well, their faces would be generated. This was taken around early August 2016.

[batdad]

This game has no regens. They are newgens. Not based on the player they are coming into the database to fill for retirement.

[redmongoose]

Hej,
I have finished my first season with the oilers and altough we reached the playoffs I have been able to get the first pick of the draft so i have McDavid. My question is, has anybody experience trying to get him to his maximal potential? And how quickly would you play him in he NHL? Watching his attributes I would say he is not quite ready in the beginning (dont want to give him like 5 min ice time in the fourth line as a checker). So should I leave him in junior hockey, call him up and put him to AHL or straight to the NHL?

In mine, he spent half of his first post-draft season in juniors. Since then he has been my second-line center. (I got him in the draft through trades and brought him to the Flyers, a proper organization ) He has been my second-line center ever since, because I have Giroux on the top line. I am in season 2022-23 and he is averaging a point per game. The past 2 seasons, he has grabbed 87 points and last season he won the Lady Byng as we won the Stanley Cup for the 3rd time in 4 years. He's better defensively than I thought he would be, and just slightly less explosive offensively than I thought, but he is very consistent and never gets injured. I should say that this is in my first save, so some of the updates haven't applied to it as far as I can tell.

[AlexTheGr8]

As far as McDavid:
I got him by trading for the first. I was going to have him play in the first year, as I expected that he would perform as we excpect him to do in the real NHL. So i signed him right away. Big Mistake. He had very few points as my 2nd Line C and had a horrible +/-. As he was hurting my team, I had to send him to the AHL where he then played until the Age of 22, barely progressing. He might get a call-up once in a while because of an Injury, but he was mostly in the Affiliate.

Now he's 24 abd even though his mental stats are out of this world, his offensive Stats look like the ones of an average 3rd Liner. I am giving him 2nd Line time and 2nd PP time, hoping to save him as he is still projectecd to be a player "like Sidney Crosby" by my scouts.

I fear however, that not letting him play a couple College Years ruined his development completly.

[KevT90]

That wasn't a bad 5th round pick ! Just starting his first season as a pro he will start in the AHL. 9.38 rating in his last season in the NCAA is insane rating.

[batdad]

I have a guy in college with a 9.5 rating in College hockey, and he totally sucks.

But that being said, this player looks to me like he will turn out to be decent 5-6 maybe 3-4 guy. I do not like his off the puck and bravery ratings. and his teammwork is lame. I would think he will be decent but not great on the PP as he has no shot or teammwork ability to speak of. Looks like Chris Tanev to me though, so that would be a good pick at that point depending on how loaded the draft was.

[Laanorfa]

Tretyak Jr. is going to be disciplined. I expect more from my 1st round picks.

[Vadim10]

Now I'm curious how you developed him. I guess you let play him the first two years in minors and then slowly put him to AHL and stepwise in your roster, or am I wrong?

[Laanorfa]

Now I'm curious how you developed him. I guess you let play him the first two years in minors and then slowly put him to AHL and stepwise in your roster, or am I wrong?

I let him play in KHL for two years, then signed him and was planning to let him play a year in AHL. Apparently, this russian bad boy hit the pre-season exhibition games like a storm so I decided to give him a try in the NHL already.

That storm hasn't shown signs of calming, as after three seasons in the league he has won 155 games out of 204 (1.89 GAA, .930SV%, 7.98 Av R), winning three Vezinas, a Conn Smyth trophy, two stanley cups, and a bunch of other shiny things.

I do have excellent goalie coaches with very good youngster skills, but Tretty was pretty much an NHL-ready player already when he arrived from Moscow.

[Mighty Knight]

Does anyone have any knowledge of who turns out better between Jakob Chychrun and Sean Day? At a loss as which one to draft, both are highly touted!

[batdad]

MIght vary from game to game with different negative potentials (Random every game) but I never look at those, and Chycrun seems to develop better in most of mine. But Day has been good as well in a couple