NHL teams releasing newly signed players

ElQuapo · Post by **ElQuapo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:32 pm

Has anyone else come across this "bug"?

Example

It has happened more times than I can count in my current game. Most of the time they wait a couple of weeks or a month after signing the player, and then release him. This example is the most extreme I have seen.

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Post by **batdad** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:34 pm

Are you using an edited database? Cause it is not happening to me at all. Ever with the original or the TBL:DB.

ElQuapo · Post by **ElQuapo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:44 pm

batdad wrote:Are you using an edited database? Cause it is not happening to me at all. Ever with the original or the TBL:DB.

Yes, I am using the Updated Unfaking. I don't believe it has anything to do with the database though - at least I can't see why that should matter. The game just crunches numbers, and because some numbers have been changed a bit should not make the game act extremely different

It is hard to spot the bug as it does not show in players history because they never play any games for the NHL team. You have to look under achievements. It seems to happen mostly to european players, but they are signed quickly by european teams, so their history page looks complete (they don't miss a seasons play etc.).

My theory is, that when teams sign europeans, then they often don't come to the club until after the current season. If the team has signed to many players this way, then when they all arrive suddenly they are over the cap or their budget, and therefore have to release players again.

Post by **B. Stinson** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:47 pm

I used to see this a lot, but recently I haven't seen it happen. I can't remember what database(s) I was using when I saw it ,though. It could have been one of the early default ones or the unfaking, but I used both, so I'm not sue which one.

Post by **batdad** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:56 pm

Not going to get into any debates about whether or not "number crunch" changes could cause this issue or not...debates have happened enough about that everywhere.

I am just curious as to what database you were using, because I have not seen it in the original db...and I have looked for it because I have read about this issue before somewhere. And it seemed that all the people who had the issue had edited their dbase somehow or other. So unfortunately, because I have never tried any database other than default or TBL:DB, I can't say anything about whether or not the unfaking one could or could not cause it. I have no idea what has been changed in that database or game, so can't tell you why it would happen in your game.

I have yet to see it in TBL:DB (does not mean I won't, I just have not). But anyway, I guess it does not really matter, since the players never miss a season. NHL teams do release players all the time. Just usually not ones they just signed. Wonder if there was a management change between the original contract offer being accepted, and the next Euro transfer date, or if it could be just what you said. Anyway, not really a big deal.

Post by **Danny** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:11 pm

Saw something similar happening in my NHL games on very few occasions, although I'm not really sure it falls under the same category. Sometimes a team would waive a player after acquiring him in a trade with me, I remember once doing a mega trade in my fantasy Flames game with loads of picks, players and prospects involved and one of those players was waived a month later. It has to be said this player was a 4th liner whom I have signed from my prospects pool prior to the trade.

Edit
oh and it appears to me that batdad's question is valid, I've seen it often enough in FM that database changes screwed up other aspects of the game that didn't seem to have anything to do with updating the database.
Not saying that's the case here or in EHM in general, just an observation. You might want to quick sim though 1-2 seasons with the original database to check it out.

ElQuapo · Post by **ElQuapo** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:26 pm

Danny wrote:Not saying that's the case here or in EHM in general, just an observation. You might want to quick sim though 1-2 seasons with the original database to check it out.

Good idea - I will try this once I get the time

ElQuapo · Post by **ElQuapo** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 9:31 am

I haven't had time to sim some seasons with the default db yet, as I can't seem to stop playing my current save

I will let you guys know once I have simmed.

hluraven · Post by **hluraven** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:54 pm

It happens with all dbs AFAIK. It has certainly happened to me with the original one and it is very annoying

markiemark66 · Post by **markiemark66** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:50 pm

I have seen this in a few saves and my current one as well. It seems that Dallas Stars targets unsigned and undrafted young players (early twenties) signs them and releases them shortly after.

Consequently there are many players the dislike Brett Hull. He can't be that bad in real life.

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:48 am

Maybe their rights. Sorry if someone already suggested that, but rights were expiring, they signed and released him to RFA's? might be the solution.

coasterholic14 · Post by **coasterholic14** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:16 pm

I had that happen to me recently using Lidas 1.3, Dallas signed a player named Andrew Clark, a few days later, they released him. I'm not sure it is really a "bug" exactly, I think it's more like they signe a player which puts them over the contract limit (stupid, i know) and wind up just releasing him. I find it usually happens with guys from Europe or Major Juniors that were signed halfway through a season (and thus don't make the move right away).

Post by **Manimal** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:08 pm

The Stars do it in 1.3 because they don't have an AHL affiliate. They do in 2.0 so it won't happen as much