Official 09-10 NHL Regular Season thread

Post by **philou21** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:24 pm

bruins72 wrote:I wonder if this Kovalchuk injury makes it more or less likely that he's traded at the deadline. If they do really poorly while he's out, they might find themselves to be looking like they won't make the playoffs. And if that's the case, will they decide to get what they can for him and rebuild?

The Thrashers are already rebuilt ( since 10 years lol ) and without Kovalchuk, i can't see this. They could never get from Kovalchuk something enough to built around, not like him. Atlanta must keep him or the franchise is dead.

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:27 pm

getzlaf15 wrote:The Ducks are embarassing.

Even that Koivu were supposed to make Selanne to his points record or something... I cant figure how he can make 1.6 points/match this way.

Never mind.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:28 pm

philou21 wrote: The Thrashers are already rebuilt ( since 10 years lol ) and without Kovalchuk, i can't see this. They could never get from Kovalchuk something enough to built around, not like him. Atlanta must keep him or the franchise is dead.

But can they keep him? If he decides he doesn't want to re-sign, he's a UFA after this season. What if he decides he want to go to a team that is a Cup contender?

Also, I think Atlanta could get more "pieces of the pie" without Kovalchuk. They've kind of got all of their eggs in one basket with him.

Post by **philou21** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:46 pm

bruins72 wrote:
philou21 wrote: The Thrashers are already rebuilt ( since 10 years lol ) and without Kovalchuk, i can't see this. They could never get from Kovalchuk something enough to built around, not like him. Atlanta must keep him or the franchise is dead.
But can they keep him? If he decides he doesn't want to re-sign, he's a UFA after this season. What if he decides he want to go to a team that is a Cup contender?

Also, I think Atlanta could get more "pieces of the pie" without Kovalchuk. They've kind of got all of their eggs in one basket with him.

Ah sorry i didn't see what you mean like this. If he don't want to sign, it's sure they must trade him, to get something interesting. Even if they can't get something as strong as him, they could have at least 2 good player for him. Because it's not so easy to replace a 50 goals scorer and somebody who make 90 pts almost all alone.

Hypnotist · Post by **Hypnotist** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:48 pm

philou21 wrote:He hit him with his elbow not with his shoulder, that's not hockey at all. Sorry but a big clean hit don't knock out a player like Booth was, even if it's not the fault of Richards. Plus he hit the head, not the body.

Look at it again, Richards did have his elbow away form his body, but it was his shoulder that made contact with Booth's noggin. What caused the damage was the fact that Booth had turned his head back to the right, just before impact and it snapped his head back to the left. That torsion is what caused his to lose consciousness. That said, it still looked like an intentional headshot. Richards should be suspended for intent to injure.

Jypfan92 wrote:Who remembers, how Darcy Tucker hits Sami Kapanen? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E1EaHOQre0 These hits aren't hockey.

I remember watching that. It was a clean, diamond-hard hit. The effect on Kapanen made it look dirty.

You want to see a dirty hit? Remeber Domi's Intent to Injure Scott Neidermeyer

Post by **philou21** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:52 pm

Sorry Hypnotist after i wrote my quote i go back again and watch it 4-5 times and i see that it wasn't is elbow who hit Booth, but like you said, it's a headshot.

And for your vids with Domi and Scott i never seen that one before! Tie Domi it such a ass****.

Post by **batdad** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:44 pm

I mainly agree with Hynotist on the Richards hit. However...Ray Ferraro pointed out on the radio here that there is NO RULE in the NHL that assesses a penalty for a shoulder check to the head. Yes...it can be determined, as it was in the game that the penalty was a 5 minute interference penalty. And this can (And was) reviewed by the league. The mitigating factors in this are

1 David Booth. david Admired his pass, David was crouched down low. David was not protecting himself. (Similar to a guy spinning his back to the middle of the ice as a forechecker moves to him...that player is partially responsible for putting himself in that position)

2. The equipment--This is a problem, and has been for awhile. Not sure what Richards wears but shoulder pads....but these are a nightmare, and many wear them with an undershirt that is also padded. And the elbow pads have caps on them that are hard as rocks. This MUST be outlawed.

3. Richards intent--Richards was late with a pseudo clean hit. it is shoulder and Booth's positioning makes it look real bad,. Watch Roenick on Off the Record on TSN. See what he has to say about it. Richards does not intend to hit Booth in the head, Booth's positioning causes that to happen.

Does this mean I think Richards should have been off the hook for what happened? No. He should have been fined like Ovenchicken was for his slew foot.

Head shots and Slew foots are the two most dangerous things in the game. The NFL manages to regulate and rule against them without taking out the hitting...so the NHL should be able to as well. Yes the game is faster, and there is less room...but umm...have you seen the line of scrimmage?

Post by **Jypfan92** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:02 pm

Franck wrote:I fail to see anything wrong with the hit on Kapanen.

Tucker's hit was clean, but i'm sure that Tucker knew what happens after that hit. Those hits are unfair.

Post by **philou21** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:12 pm

Peter Budaj has been diagnosed with the H1N1. It's nothing that really matters but i thought it was good to know. For the moment nobody in the Avalanche seems to have it. Just hope it will not degenerate and like half of the team will get it. But nothing to worry about i think.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:46 pm

Hope so. Budaj isn't in Avalanche's roster in next 4 matches.

Post by **batdad** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:50 pm

At some point every single NHL team will have an outbreak of this. All sports teams will. It will just mean guys are out with the flu. Going to be lots of chances for minor leaguers to get a shot.

Post by **Manimal** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:18 pm

batdad wrote: Going to be lots of chances for minor leaguers to get a shot.

Everyone is getting a shot, of vaccine that is

Post by **batdad** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:38 pm

Heh. Too late for guys like Smid, Quintin Laing, Budaj...and of course those are the three. Doctors seem to be saying the only strain of flu going around right now (at least in Western Canada) is the H1N1. So....you could also say Brule, Comrie have likely had it. Brule said he was basically unable to get out of bed he was so sore. This means to me he was experiencing the "I was hit by a mack truck" symptom of H1N1. He also had an outrageously high fever...again a symptom...that seemed to go away, then come back. All like the H1N1 strain.

So...I am thinking it is alot more than just the three confirmed cases. Kyle Wellwood as well had a flu. Since H1N1 is the only strain going around out here...take your conclusions from there.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:39 pm

In English Premier League (soccer/football not hockey) two teams has H1N1. Blackburn Rover's 3 players are out and Bolton Wanderer's 4 players are out. And in French League (again soccer) Paris St. Germains few players are out and they had to cancel their last game.

Maybe that happens in hockey, too, but it gives good chance to 3rd/4th line players and juniors/farm players (if they are healthy). But sure, 1st liners can be healthy and 3rd/4th liners are out. Everything is possible.

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:45 pm

Jypfan92 wrote:. But sure, 1st liners can be healthy and 3rd/4th liners are out. Everything is possible.

Nice when you need to play with 2-3 lines 60 mins of action...

Post by **getzlaf15** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:08 pm

And here's the moment we've all been waiting for... Gaboriks injured!

Post by **batdad** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:55 pm

Shocking. That was two days ago, as yesterday I was thinking about making a deal in the hockey pool, and I clicked on his name and saw that he had got hurt the night before.

Post by **philou21** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:12 pm

getzlaf15 wrote:And here's the moment we've all been waiting for... Gaboriks injured!

Did you see the face of Tortorella when Gaborik was going to the bench after geing injured?

It was like a big f*** what am i gonna do without him. lol But you know, the Rangers take the risk to sign him. They won alot with him and he was doing well. Now let's just see how long he is injured.

Doug Weight as the H1N1 too and it's seem that Luongo is injured ''indefinitely'' with an unknow injure.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:12 pm

philou21 wrote:Luongo is injured ''indefinitely'' with an unknow injure.

Is overatedness an injury?

Post by **batdad** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:31 pm

I dunno. Ask JS Giguere, AKA the Michelin Man

Post by **philou21** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:38 pm

batdad wrote:I dunno. Ask JS Giguere, AKA the Michelin Man

x 1000

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:50 pm

Any of you guys read the story about the Toronto Maple Leafs fan that finally got so frustrated that he auctioned off his team loyalty on eBay? Pretty funny story...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_d ... nhl,198746

Hypnotist · Post by **Hypnotist** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Jypfan92 wrote:In English Premier League (soccer/football not hockey) two teams has H1N1. Blackburn Rover's 3 players are out and Bolton Wanderer's 4 players are out. And in French League (again soccer) Paris St. Germains few players are out and they had to cancel their last game.

Yeah, but that's soccer and nobody cares that the teams didn't get a chance to play to a pointless 0 - 0 tie.

bruins72 wrote:Any of you guys read the story about the Toronto Maple Leafs fan that finally got so frustrated that he auctioned off his team loyalty on eBay? Pretty funny story...

That's classic! XD

Post by **getzlaf15** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:43 pm

batdad wrote:I dunno. Ask JS Giguere, AKA the Michelin Man

Giggy was never overated...

Post by **philou21** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:49 pm

getzlaf15 wrote:
batdad wrote:I dunno. Ask JS Giguere, AKA the Michelin Man
Giggy was never overated...

I don't think Luongo is much more. Did Giguere make something like three straight season with an average of shot of 2000 shots and finish with over .915% ??? Biggest season Giguere as know is 1800 shots. I am not saying Giguere is overated not at all but the people saying that Luongo is overated i don't get it. With the Panthers he prove more than one time that he was a great goalie, i mean look at his stats!