The Official Olympics Hockey Thread

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:49 pm

axwel3221 wrote:Lol, Hejduk is better than Jagr IMO. I think that is clear.

I think both should be in Team Czech Rep., but i don't know why they choose Cervenka and Rolinek cause there's Prospal and Hejduk. Hejduk isn't defensive player, but Prospal is and he can play center.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:51 pm

Prospal is injured, maybe that's why he isn't in Team Czech Rep.

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:04 pm

Jypfan92 wrote:
axwel3221 wrote:
Jypfan92 wrote:
I can't stand, why Jalonen choose Ville Peltonen instead of Mika Pyörälä. Pyörälä is perfect 13th forward, he can play in center, both wingers, powerplay, pentalty kills, everything, only goalie position isn't his job, but maybe if Kipper, Bäcks and Rask are injured, he is first choice to play goalie . Janne Niskala is weird choice, cause he is offensive defender and our pp's should be:

J. Jokinen-M. Koivu-T. Ruutu
K. Timonen-S. Salo

N. Hagman-S. Koivu- T. Selänne
J. Pitkänen-O. Jokinen

So what to do with Niskala?
I guess they still make him play PP. Jussi Jokinen is not even in the team, I guess you know that. Väänänen would be much better than Niskala on the team.
Oh, i didn't notice that J. Jokinen isn't in team. That's horrible . Väänänen should be instead of Niskala.

And why in the world is there Jere Lehtinen or any other born before 1975? (Selänne probably, but...) Pyörälä yes, Leino yes, Salmela yes, they all could make the team with E-A-S-E!

watts555 · Post by **watts555** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:10 pm

Team Canada Roster announced

Team Canada

Forwards
Patrice Bergeron

Sidney Crosby (Alternate captain)

Ryan Getzlaf

Dany Heatley

Jarome Iginla

Patrick Marleau

Brenden Morrow

Rick Nash

Mike Richards

Corey Perry

Eric Staal

Joe Thornton

Jonathan Toews

Defence

Dan Boyle

Drew Doughty

Duncan Keith

Scott Niedermayer (Captain)

Chris Pronger, (Alternate captain)

Brent Seabrook

Shea Weber

Goalies

Roberto Luongo

Martin Brodeur

Marc-Andre Fleur

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:30 pm

watts555 wrote:Team Canada Roster announced
Team Canada

Forwards
Patrice Bergeron

Sidney Crosby (Alternate captain)

Ryan Getzlaf

Dany Heatley

Jarome Iginla

Patrick Marleau

Brenden Morrow

Rick Nash

Mike Richards

Corey Perry

Eric Staal

Joe Thornton

Jonathan Toews

Defence

Dan Boyle

Drew Doughty

Duncan Keith

Scott Niedermayer (Captain)

Chris Pronger, (Alternate captain)

Brent Seabrook

Shea Weber

Goalies

Roberto Luongo

Martin Brodeur

Marc-Andre Fleur

Jarome Iginla is alternate captain too.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:34 pm

axwel3221 wrote:
Jypfan92 wrote:
axwel3221 wrote: I guess they still make him play PP. Jussi Jokinen is not even in the team, I guess you know that. Väänänen would be much better than Niskala on the team.
Oh, i didn't notice that J. Jokinen isn't in team. That's horrible . Väänänen should be instead of Niskala.
And why in the world is there Jere Lehtinen or any other born before 1975? (Selänne probably, but...) Pyörälä yes, Leino yes, Salmela yes, they all could make the team with E-A-S-E!

Salmela isn't good defender, i wouldn't want to see him in Olympics or World Championships. Leino has played awful season, but he has played in 4th line with small minutes. They aren't Olympic candidates.

Jere Lehtinen is good checking forward, hopefully he is healthy. Ville Peltonen is bigger surprise, cause he's not as good as he can play in first 2 lines and he's not good defensive forward. Maybe he is 13th forward.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:06 am

Team Switzerland roster announced:

Goalies:

Martin Gerber, Atlant
Jonas Hiller, Anaheim Ducks
Tobias Stephan, Geneve

Defenders:

Goran Bezina, Geneve
Severin Blindenbacher, Färjestad
Rafael Diaz, Zug
Roman Josi, Bern
Luca Sbisa, Lethbridge
Mathias Seger, Zürich
Mark Streit, New York Islanders
Yannick Weber, Hamilton

Forwards:

Andres Ambühl, Hartford
Thomas Deruns, Geneve
Hnat Domenichelli, Lugano
Sandy Jeannin, Fribourg
Thibaut Monnet, Zürich
Thierry Paterlini, Rapperswil
Martin Plüss, Bern
Kevin Romy, Lugano
Ivo Rüthemann, Bern
Raffaele Sannitz, Lugano
Julien Sprunger, Fribourg
Roman Wick, Kloten

Post by **Jypfan92** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:08 am

Team Germany announced their roster, too:

Goalies:

Dennis Endras, Augsburg
Thomas Greiss, San Jose Sharks
Dimitri Pätzold, Ingolstadt

Defenders:

Michael Bakos, Ingolstadt
Christian Ehrhoff, Vancouver Canucks
Jakub Ficenec, Ingolstadt
Jason Holland, Düsseldorf
Korbinian Holzer, Düsseldorf
Chris Schmidt, Mannheim
Dennis Seidenberg, Florida Panthers
Alexander Sulzer, Nashville Predators

Forwards:

Alexander Barta, Hampuri
Sven Felski, Eisbären Berlin
Marcel Goc, Nashville Predators
Philip Gogulla, Buffalo Sabres
Thomas Greilinger, Ingolstadt
Manuel Klinge, Kassel
Marcel Müller, Köln
Travis J. Mulock, Eisbären Berlin
Andre Rankel, Eisbären Berlin
Marco Sturm, Boston Bruins
John Tripp, Hampuri
Michael Wolf, Iserlohn

But where's Jochen Hecht and Christoph Schubert?

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:43 am

Jypfan92 wrote:
axwel3221 wrote:
Jypfan92 wrote: Oh, i didn't notice that J. Jokinen isn't in team. That's horrible . Väänänen should be instead of Niskala.
And why in the world is there Jere Lehtinen or any other born before 1975? (Selänne probably, but...) Pyörälä yes, Leino yes, Salmela yes, they all could make the team with E-A-S-E!
Salmela isn't good defender, i wouldn't want to see him in Olympics or World Championships. Leino has played awful season, but he has played in 4th line with small minutes. They aren't Olympic candidates.

Jere Lehtinen is good checking forward, hopefully he is healthy. Ville Peltonen is bigger surprise, cause he's not as good as he can play in first 2 lines and he's not good defensive forward. Maybe he is 13th forward.

Pyörälä is better than Peltonen, say it.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:39 pm

axwel3221 wrote:
Jypfan92 wrote:
axwel3221 wrote: And why in the world is there Jere Lehtinen or any other born before 1975? (Selänne probably, but...) Pyörälä yes, Leino yes, Salmela yes, they all could make the team with E-A-S-E!
Salmela isn't good defender, i wouldn't want to see him in Olympics or World Championships. Leino has played awful season, but he has played in 4th line with small minutes. They aren't Olympic candidates.

Jere Lehtinen is good checking forward, hopefully he is healthy. Ville Peltonen is bigger surprise, cause he's not as good as he can play in first 2 lines and he's not good defensive forward. Maybe he is 13th forward.
Pyörälä is better than Peltonen, say it.

Peltonen is better scoring, but Pyörälä is all-round player, and those kind of players are rarities all over the world. It doesn't matter, who Finnish forward is away cause of injury cause he can replace anybody. Peltonen couldn't replace J. Ruutu or M. Koivu, cause he can't play defense role and he can't play center (i mean he can, but he can't win faceoffs). Pyörälä could replace both players, he can play both defensive and offensive roles, play winger and play center and win faceoffs.

But that's our team, and we have to respect our roster and head coach.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:30 pm

I read interesting fact about Olympics. In Vancouver, there's no players from Sm-league, but one player from Mestis-league (!?!?), Norwegian goalie Andre Lysenstoen. It's interesting that there's no Sm-leagueplayers, but 14 players from Elitserien. Jyp's Jyrki Välivaara was good candidate to Team Finland, but he has been injured, and he can play in late March.

In Torino's Olympics, there were one player chosen from Sm-league, Latvian Janis Sprukts, but he was injured and he didn't play in Olympics. Latest Sm-leagueplayer in Olympics was Raimo Helminen in Salt Lake City in 2002.

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:35 pm

Jypfan92 wrote:I read interesting fact about Olympics. In Vancouver, there's no players from Sm-league, but one player from Mestis-league (!?!?), Norwegian goalie Andre Lysenstoen. It's interesting that there's no Sm-leagueplayers, but 14 players from Elitserien. Jyp's Jyrki Välivaara was good candidate to Team Finland, but he has been injured, and he can play in late March.

In Torino's Olympics, there were one player chosen from Sm-league, Latvian Janis Sprukts, but he was injured and he didn't play in Olympics. Latest Sm-leagueplayer in Olympics was Raimo Helminen in Salt Lake City in 2002.

Lysenstoen was also in danger missing those games? I read it somewhere methinks...

The Hutch · Post by **The Hutch** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:32 am

John Tripp is going to be playing at the Olympics? JOHN TRIPP is going to be playing at the Olympics?!

Stastny26 · Post by **Stastny26** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:47 pm

national team of Russia (almost 100%)

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Semin
Kovalchuk-Malkin-Afinogenov
Zaripov-Zinovjev-Morozov (C)
Kozlov-Fedorov(A)-Radulov

Markov-Volchenkov
Gonchar(A)-Grebeshkov
Tyutin-Kalinin
Korneev-Nikulin

Nabokov
Bryzgalov
Varlamov

In PP

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Morozov
Kovalchuk-Markov

Semin-Malkin-Radulov
Gonchar-Kalinin(Nikulin)

In PK

Fedorov-Kozlov
Markov-Volchenkov

Zaripov-Zinovjev
Tyutin-Grebeshkov

If there are injuries, the first replacement players Frolov, Tereschenko, Saprykin, Proshkin, Tverdovsky

Post by **Jypfan92** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:10 am

Stastny26 wrote:national team of Russia (almost 100%)

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Semin
Kovalchuk-Malkin-Afinogenov
Zaripov-Zinovjev-Morozov (C)
Kozlov-Fedorov(A)-Radulov

Markov-Volchenkov
Gonchar(A)-Grebeshkov
Tyutin-Kalinin
Korneev-Nikulin

Nabokov
Bryzgalov
Varlamov

In PP

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Morozov
Kovalchuk-Markov

Semin-Malkin-Radulov
Gonchar-Kalinin(Nikulin)

In PK

Fedorov-Kozlov
Markov-Volchenkov

Zaripov-Zinovjev
Tyutin-Grebeshkov

If there are injuries, the first replacement players Frolov, Tereschenko, Saprykin, Proshkin, Tverdovsky

I think that Datsyuk plays in 3rd line (Malkin could be 1st line center) with Kozlov and someone else, maybe Tereschenko, if someone is injured. In your roster there's no checking line, who can play against 1st lines. Datsyuk plays 1st pp and 1st pk.

Stastny26 · Post by **Stastny26** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:36 am

Jypfan92 wrote:
Stastny26 wrote:national team of Russia (almost 100%)

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Semin
Kovalchuk-Malkin-Afinogenov
Zaripov-Zinovjev-Morozov (C)
Kozlov-Fedorov(A)-Radulov

Markov-Volchenkov
Gonchar(A)-Grebeshkov
Tyutin-Kalinin
Korneev-Nikulin

Nabokov
Bryzgalov
Varlamov

In PP

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Morozov
Kovalchuk-Markov

Semin-Malkin-Radulov
Gonchar-Kalinin(Nikulin)

In PK

Fedorov-Kozlov
Markov-Volchenkov

Zaripov-Zinovjev
Tyutin-Grebeshkov

If there are injuries, the first replacement players Frolov, Tereschenko, Saprykin, Proshkin, Tverdovsky
I think that Datsyuk plays in 3rd line (Malkin could be 1st line center) with Kozlov and someone else, maybe Tereschenko, if someone is injured. In your roster there's no checking line, who can play against 1st lines. Datsyuk plays 1st pp and 1st pk.

No, no and no again.
First, Kozlov-Fedorov played on the last stage Eurotour and everyone knows that they will play in the fourth line.
Secondly, our coaches have already given preliminary composition of our line and Datsyuk 100% player first line, he will perform the role Backstrom for Ovechkin.
Thirdly, our coaches have said that the fact checking-line we will not, but if you need something in this role and will perform just experienced Kozlov, Fedorov and aggressive Radulov.
As for the game in PK, then yes there Datsyuk can play instead of Zinoviev.
But the fact that line will be, as I wrote - it is 100%, if not injury.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:21 am

Stastny26 wrote:
Jypfan92 wrote:
Stastny26 wrote:national team of Russia (almost 100%)

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Semin
Kovalchuk-Malkin-Afinogenov
Zaripov-Zinovjev-Morozov (C)
Kozlov-Fedorov(A)-Radulov

Markov-Volchenkov
Gonchar(A)-Grebeshkov
Tyutin-Kalinin
Korneev-Nikulin

Nabokov
Bryzgalov
Varlamov

In PP

Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Morozov
Kovalchuk-Markov

Semin-Malkin-Radulov
Gonchar-Kalinin(Nikulin)

In PK

Fedorov-Kozlov
Markov-Volchenkov

Zaripov-Zinovjev
Tyutin-Grebeshkov

If there are injuries, the first replacement players Frolov, Tereschenko, Saprykin, Proshkin, Tverdovsky
I think that Datsyuk plays in 3rd line (Malkin could be 1st line center) with Kozlov and someone else, maybe Tereschenko, if someone is injured. In your roster there's no checking line, who can play against 1st lines. Datsyuk plays 1st pp and 1st pk.
No, no and no again.
First, Kozlov-Fedorov played on the last stage Eurotour and everyone knows that they will play in the fourth line.
Secondly, our coaches have already given preliminary composition of our line and Datsyuk 100% player first line, he will perform the role Backstrom for Ovechkin.
Thirdly, our coaches have said that the fact checking-line we will not, but if you need something in this role and will perform just experienced Kozlov, Fedorov and aggressive Radulov.
As for the game in PK, then yes there Datsyuk can play instead of Zinoviev.
But the fact that line will be, as I wrote - it is 100%, if not injury.

Ok, you know better. Interesting that they don't have checking line. Head coach of Team Finland said that Team Finland have no checking line. I don't know why, cause our 4th line will be J. Ruutu-N. Kapanen-A. Miettinen

Post by **batdad** » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:34 pm

If any of the major contenders stick completely to a line configuration...they will lose. You cannot do that in this day and age. I guarantee that the 1st line each team puts out will not be the first line they finish the tournament with. So you can guarantee all you want what a coach says a line will be now, but come February...it will change. And then it could change each and every day. Especially if they lose.

Then again, don't mind if the Russians stay with exactly the same line combos even if it does not work well. Come to think of it, they have done so in the past....and lost.

DJP19 · Post by **DJP19** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:49 am

The Czech Republic will be lucky if they can even make the semi finals, if only dominik Hasek was 10 years younger.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:09 pm

Team Belarus have to play Olympics without one of their best players, cause Mikhail Grabovski and Andrei Kostitsyn are injured.

Adam Oates happens

Post by **Jypfan92** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:17 am

Bad luck:

First Tuomo Ruutu gets injury, then Teemu Selänne, then Saku Koivu and last night Jere Lehtinen

Hopefully they can play in olympics, Koivu and Ruutu should be in good condition in 1-2 weeks, Selänne 3-6 weeks and Lehtinen is out for unknown time

Deleted 25-08-19 · Post by **Deleted 25-08-19** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:35 pm

Lehtinen is able to play in Olympics.
Ruutu and Koivu also.
Selänne maybe.
We need again guys like Antti Pilhström.

Post by **A9L3E** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:06 pm

How about Timonen?

axwel3221 · Post by **axwel3221** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:27 pm

Ronc wrote: We need again guys like Antti Pilhström.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:01 pm

Timonen played 28 minutes last night so it looks like he's healthy.