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batdad wrote: Make no mistake= Jacobs is chairman of the NHL Board of GOvernors. He is a cheap, dumb assclown.

Yeah exactly, which is why I'm suspicious. You don't get into that position if you don't have the majority (and not just 6-8) of the owners behind you and your ways of doing business, it's not like Jacobs being a cheap assclown always willing to put up a fight in labour negotiations is something new. I have a hard time believing that a boatload of rich, powerful businessmen used to get their will would watch while a few guys are driving this off the cliff. I don't have facts to back this up, just some ramblings.
I'd like to somehow punish them financially too, unfortunately I'm not in that position, GameCenter is the only reliable way to get hockey and I don't want to deprive myself of the NHL completely.
Whatever, so Timmeh is done, he will definitely not play this season, according to BobbyMac. Wonder if the Bruins would use one of their buyouts on him. Unless he won't count anyway because he fails to report.

From the cbc.ca website, the expected “nuts and bolts” of the agreement…

- The CBA will run for 10 years through 2021-22, with an option to terminate the deal after eight years.
- Players receive defined benefit pension plan.
- Owners and players split revenue 50-50 each season, with the players receiving $300 million US in deferred "make-whole payments" to ease the transition from previous system.
- A pro-rated salary cap of $70.2-million for the shortened 2012-13 season followed by a salary cap of $64.3-million in 2013-14. The salary floor will be set at $44 million for both years.
- Seven-year limit on free-agent contracts (eight-year limit when a team signs its own player to an extension).
- A maximum salary variance of 35 per cent from year to year, with no more than a 50 per cent total difference between any two seasons in the contract.
- The minimum salary starts at $525,000 this season and reaches $750,000 for the 10th and final year of the agreement.
- Teams can only walk away from a player in salary arbitration who is awarded at least $3.5 million.
- Each team will be given the option of two "amnesty buyouts" that can be used to terminate contracts prior to the 2013-14 season or 2014-15 season. The buyouts will cost two-thirds of the remaining amount on a deal — paid evenly over twice its remaining length — and will count against the players' overall share in revenues, but not the individual team's salary cap.
- Revenue sharing between teams increased to $200 million annually.
- Any player on a one-way contract who plays in the American Hockey League with a salary in excess of the NHL's minimum salary plus $375,000 will have the excess amount charged against his team's salary cap.
- Unrestricted free agency continues to open on July 1.
- The participation of NHLers in future Olympics has yet to be determined. The decision will be made outside of the CBA.

Re Jacobs You get there because no one else wants it. Who would want that job? He has had it since 2007. The guy before him? Tough guy Harley Hotchkiss from Calgary. The hardliners run the show and tell everyone else to shutup. They want the top positions so they can make things run THEIR way. It is the old school way of business and those two guys (especially them) are old school businessmen.

For the same reason tough coaches do not have success anymore....neither do tough guy businessmen. They are hard headed and do not listen to others. It takes end arounds to get past them, and ...all he and Bettman need to run the show is a total of 8 owners. It is that simple. If 8 guys vote for Buttman to stay he stays...and he keeps his old man dumb ass cronies around.

heh fair enough batdad, I don't feel like wasting too much time making a case for Jacobs anyway
He did a great job going back to being a dumbass again after he finally gained some sympathy from fans over the last 5 years

It is not signed so far. I'll believe it once it will be signed.

And I'm not happy with this season. I was looking forward to great World Championships, I guess Swedes too Many of players from czech league already left to US. But Jagr? Jagr decided to stay a play his last game on Tuesday He want to thank to fans and say finally hello.

Owners just want to have their income from play off. Maybe the next season can start immediately by play off, best of twenty games

LOL. Quit whining. Euros whined when the NHLers went over there and stole jobs and now they are whining when they go home.

Haha
Hello Mr. Cherry

nino33 wrote:- Owners and players split revenue 50-50 each season,

Now that's revolutionary. Who would ever have thought sharing something 50-50...

Having said that, I am starting to get that new season excitement/feeling having seen all of the tweets on Twitter about new season preparations. I have a feeling I'll end up renewing my Game Center Live subscription like the NHL whore that I am.

Well....another whore on TBL that's just great! IMO what will be the most exciting is a 48 matches season. That's gonna be intense but I need to stay on my position and do not watch anything.

MOre proof that all Bruins fans are puppets, slaves and whores.

And no, not being Cherry. That is what happens each and every time there is a lockout. Whine when the NHLers come over and play ....whine when they leave because the NHL has started up. Not saying the same individual does both...saying that several individuals always do at least one or the other. It is really just my old mantra of "Reality is reality, it is never perfect and stop whining when it does not do exactly what you want"

That being said....it was more of a joke than anything (which I knew you realize Danny)

Leafs have fired GM Brian Burke! A surprise/strange timing...I wonder what the story is

wow didn't see that coming at all

Burke for comish ?

nino33 wrote:Leafs have fired GM Brian Burke! A surprise/strange timing...I wonder what the story is

Tons of speculation right now especially given the timing. One of the main points of speculation is that he was refusing to deal for Luongo, or at least not willing to give what Gillis is asking for. The other is that the Leafs were asked to not fire him during the lockout. Leafs have a presser at 1:45.

Strange timing this is, no question.

Hearing it's Nonis' turn now. Wonder if it's permanent. Not sure if I'd like that if I were a Leafs fan, but still... no Burke. Can't be that bad.

Círyatan wrote:Strange timing this is, no question.

Hearing it's Nonis' turn now. Wonder if it's permanent. Not sure if I'd like that if I were a Leafs fan, but still... no Burke. Can't be that bad.

It's premanent. Nonis is NOT an interm. He is the new GM of the Leafs. The timing had to due with the sale of MLSE to Bell/Rogers and the board discussions. They decided that they didn't like Burke's 'style' so they informed him this morning. Burke, Nonis and all the brass were at the Marlies game last night, none of the new anything about this.

Oh and Burke is staying on as a senior advisor

here's the press release:

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm ... L|TOR|home

Thread is misnamed. Should be the 2013 Regular Season thread. No need for 2012. Its a write off. Where did my post go about Burke?

I posted that this firing is MAINLY to do with the fact that the owners are MEDIA people. The people Brian does not get along with at all. I am only surprised that this was not done in say June. If it has anything to do with Roberto...it will only be the EXCUSE for pulling the trigger now. It is not the real background reason.

Really big surprise indeed! And weird timing too as most of us are saying.

How about those nice apoligies from Buttman AND Jacobs batdad??

LOL. Yeah they were pretty stone faced. But in their defense (what? Really? ---Do not worry it will be about as good a defense as Columbus and Florida have) what else should they do in front of the microphone. They really do not have much choice at this point. And really...actions speak louder than words. And their action will be inaction.

On another note--Freaking COlorado better hurry up and sign Ryan O\Reilly (RFA) after this CBA is ratified. Need his butt in my lineup.

WHY DID THE LEAFS FIRED BRIAN BURKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was one of the best GM of the league (with tallon-Panthers). When he came to Toronto, the leafs had pratically nothing.
The best defenseman was Kaberle. He was the one that got Phaneuf for scrap (Stajan, Toskala).
The best forward was ... He was the one that got Kessel and Lupul.
"Haters" will say that he payed to much for phil kessel (seguin, hamilton and another guy). We don't need to forget that the leafs had no wingers so tyler seguin wouldn't score 30 goals like kessel did. Also, if Lupul is playing like a "boss" since he's playing with kessel so... For Dougie Hamilton, the Leafs have the same slapshot with Dion Phaneuf and Jake Gardiner is a key defensman for the leafs. They also drafted Morgan Rielly.

The Leafs before
Jason Blake - Nikolai Antropov - Lee Stempniak
Alexei Ponikarovsky - Mikhail Grabovski - Niklas Hagman
Matthew Stajan - Dominic Moore - Nikolai Kulemin
Boyd Devereaux - John Mitchell - Jamal Mayers

Tomas Kaberle - Pavel Kubina
Ian White - Luke Schenn
Anton Stralman - Jeff Finger (Mike Van Ryn)

Vesa Toskala
Curtis Joseph

The Leafs now
Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
JVR-Grabovsky-Kulemin
McArthur-Connolly-Fraatin/Kadri/Colborne
Steckel-McClement-Brown

Gardiner-Phaneuf
Liles-Komisarek
Gunarsson-Holzer

Reimer
Scrivens

He pratically changed pratically all the player (except grabo and kulemin)!!!!!!!!!

I'm upset too, Chia's prospect pipeline has been cut off
!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL Danny. Burke fired because the owners hate him. Plain and simple. Oh, and he is not very good. He turned down trades that were 1st rounders coming his way at deadline last year for Grabovsuck and Macarsuck. Silly man.

Talks a big game. But really what has he done? Not much. Anaheim team that won the cup was not his. Sedin deal was amazing. Find a goalie Brian....you are almost as bad as Holmgren/Clarke and Philadelphia at doing that.

A guy who argues with his boss is doomed to failure. And guess what...Burke failed.

batdad wrote:LOL Danny. Burke fired because the owners hate him. Plain and simple. Oh, and he is not very good. He turned down trades that were 1st rounders coming his way at deadline last year for Grabovsuck and Macarsuck. Silly man.

Talks a big game. But really what has he done? Not much. Anaheim team that won the cup was not his. Sedin deal was amazing. Find a goalie Brian....you are almost as bad as Holmgren/Clarke and Philadelphia at doing that.

A guy who argues with his boss is doomed to failure. And guess what...Burke failed.

Sad thing is, I really like Brian Burke a lot. But no, he hasn't done a good job with the Leafs, at all. The team was mediocre at best when he took over, the team is mediocre at best years later. Yeah, there are some nice younger players in the system here and there, guess what, that's hardly an accomplishment worth mentioning considering the Leafs have been bottom feeders for years. But, is Dave Nonis that much better ? All of Burkie's guys got to keep their jobs

Nonis is the polite nice Brian Burke. Same ideas as Brian for the most part. In Vancouver he had one good draft, and one real bad draft.
2004--Schneider, Edler, Hansen--Good
2005 --Bourdon and Raymond
2006 Grabner
2007- Um well.....Patrick White Taylor Ellington and assortment of other players NOT good enough to ever play in the NHL.

Fired in 2008.

Nonis will bring in some assets for the Laffs. He is a decent GM at assets...but not sure he will ever take the team over the top. That will likely have to be someone else.

Interesting stats, NHL leaders lock out to lock out

Especially the PIMS. LOVE that HARTNELL DOWN HARTNELL DOWN.