i think ive got the positions wrong.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:29 pm

in the forward line i always assumed the centre is the main goal scorer, yet when i play its always the wingers taking the shots. ive set the centre to shoot and the wingers to pass but that doesent help. my centres are not great but the have decent off the puck and shooting. umm basically help please

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:04 pm

Well first off, I always have my centre passing, and my wingers shoot, but I find if my centre is also a good shooter, I leave it on pass, but put shooting to often, and he scores quite alot. Example my second line centre is Patrick Marleau and his wrist shot is 20, but hes a good playmaker, and my LW is Michalek, whose passing is better than his shooting, so I let him pass more, and make Marleau shoot, and it works a treat.
Hope I helped.
Tim.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:21 pm

so you set up your team so the wingers get most chances ? ive used a few of the tactics and even on positional it seems to be all wingers.

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:34 pm

Well for example, my first line is Bell Thornton Chechoo, both Bell and Cheechoo are set to shoot, and Thornton to creative passing, and Cheechoo and Bell both score a bag of goals and Thornton scores his fair share also, and my second line is Michalek Marleau Bernier, but this is a little different, as Marleau has a good wrister, and Michalek is a good playmaker, so I still leave Marleau at centre, but I set him to shoot, but also creative passing, and Bernier is on shoot, and Michalek on creative, and pass. All in all, its about getting a balance of say a grinder, a playmaker and a scorer, chemistry like all sports is key, and the Sharks are blessed with the best one two centre combination in the league, so it makes my job as GM easier

Any questions feel free to ask, I'm happy to offer wat ive learnt.

Tim.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:35 pm

cheers
i think a big problem could be your centre is thornton. im currently the cardiff devils.

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:40 pm

Hope I helped, lol yeh that could be a problem, but as I said, just get the line combinations right, and you will be laughing your way to success, and if it doesnt work after a game or 2, dont get to dishearted give it 10 games or so, let them gel before u judge how they are going, then make the necesary changes. I mean my first season as the Sharks and Bell dominates on the first line, and we all know, Bell isn't wat you call a dominant scorer, but the second season he usually quitens down, thats when I promote Michalek

So dont be afraid to try new things, but you must give them time to gel.
Tim.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:46 pm

im actually top of the league lol. i was just confused why the players i sign never get goals. do you play triangle or overload the slot ?

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:51 pm

With Joe's line I play overload slot, with Marleau's line i play triangle, Overload slot is for stronger centres, and triangle is for skillfull forwards I beleive, Joe can do either, but I get more success with Overload with him. But yeah if your centre is strong, choose overload, if he isnt so strong but skillfull choose triangle, if hes both, test out both, see which works better.
Anything else you want to know?

Tim.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:54 pm

the meaning of life ?

nah im good thanks, cheers mate. i was going to post on the si website but thats a waste of time.
thinking about it, i think its down to the quality of my players. in my st louis blues game brind`amour gets goals and assists and john madden did well

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:01 pm

No Problems mate, yeah this forum is awesome for advice, discussion and anything hockey really. Madden is a good player actually, he roughs it up a bit but can put it in the net aswell, and is good for the younger kids aswell.
Must say though ive never seen Brind'amour put up anything beyond average numbers, but as you would know is a good faceoff man, and has bucket loads of experience, and can kill a penalty.
Tim.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:08 pm

in five preseason games he rated 10,10,10,10,9 so i cant complain, shame he wasent 10 years youngers. tkachuck and shanahan complate his line. more random player grabbing than planned

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:14 pm

Lol thats a line with experience if ive ever seen one, wouldnt hurt if u put a young lad on that line he would learn alot from the 2 other old timers

I've never had Shanahan Tkachuk or Brind'amour, I try stick with younger players, with the odd older guy.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:20 pm

my 4th line is all rookies/young. my 2nd is a mix and my 3rd are based on the paul newman movie slapshot

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:23 pm

LOL Slapshot, they are hilarious movies, so your 3rd line is full of psychos

I find Ryan Hollweg from Rangers is a good grinding winger, cheap too.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:28 pm

i spend more time with football games, lot easier to understand. but ive become addicted to this hockey stuff. im doing well but cant work out how and why. id thought it was just like 5 a side football but no way. dont even get me started on contracts, caps and all the different types of free agent

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:34 pm

Football as in soccer? or that stupid sport they call american football? Well i must say hockey is hard to understand if ur new to it, but being an australian there isnt much hockey over here, so its hard, but im a huge hockey fan and a huge sharks fan, and i love this game, and i could talk about this game, hockey, and the sharks for hours upon hours

but if u mean football as in soccer, i also do play the Football Manager series, they are more detailed for obvious reasons that soccer is the "world game" but i like the salary cap, and it isnt overly hard to understand, as the idea of it is to create a level playing field, so you dont get all the popular rich teams dominating for decades. I'm all for the salary cap.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:42 pm

yeah, football as in soccer. i understand the basics of hockey, its just when you get technical it goes over my head. do you post on sortitoutsi ?

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:47 pm

Well ill try not to get to technical and if i do, ill explain it so u can understand

and no i dont, i dont go on forums for FM07 as im not as passionate about that game as i am with this one

i guess i just love hockey, and anythin to do with hockey ill do it. But the FM series is great, but id play EHM07 over FM07 anyday. But variety doesnt hurt every now and then.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:07 pm

they have a hockey section too. i was helped by an aussie there. i didnt mean you being too technical. just hockey in general, took me ages to work out the plus minus thing. they love their stats do the americans.

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:14 pm

LOL yes they do love there stats, some stats in the american sports to me r pointless, ruins it at times i think, baseball is confusing with there batting averages etc, but i find hockeys stats are all quite easy to understand, not too technical, and not any pointless stats.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:16 pm

2 hours till i can play again, still not sure about my centres. ah if your into football maybe i can explain better. i was sure that hockey wingers are like football wingers, get the ball and cross it to the striker to finish. but the way it looks to me is that my wingers are playing too much in the middle .

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:21 pm

Oh well in hockey, wingers are usually the goal scoreres and centres usually the playmakers, I mean i guess you could have it like soccer and have the wingers be the playmakers and the centre the scorer, ive never tryed it, but i find that having the 2 wingers shoot and the centre is the playmaker.

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:24 pm

aha now i understand, i just checked the nhl stats and most of the top scorers are wingers.

. if you ever end up in cardiff ill buy you a pint. cheers for the help.

sjsharkz · Post by **sjsharkz** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:27 pm

Glad to help mate, and il hold u to that haha

goat10 · Post by **goat10** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:45 pm

tested out my new info and its looking much better, now im letting goals in all over the place. every game is 5-4 or 6-3. ah well back to the drawing board