Random PA, not being random: Help!

[ccmequip]

Hello,

I'm not sure if anyone has had this problem before. I have been using the pre-game editor to edit some player potential attributes. In many cases I was assigning players to the negative value random generator (i.e. assigning -5 to PA, to achieve something from 70-100).

However, when I went to check these players' PA in the saved-game editor (after creating the game), the players would often not have a PA in the range corresponding to the negative value I assigned them (i.e. even though I gave them a -5 PA, they would turn out to have a PA above 100 in the saved-game editor). Moreover, I observed that their (supposedly random) potential would be constant across game creations; for example, if I saw a player with a PA of -5 in the pre-game editor, who had a PA of say 115 in the saved-game, in each new game creation (I did at least a dozen) they would always have a PA of 115! And worse, even if I changed their negative PA in the pre-game editor (say from -5 to -1, or -12 to -11), they would still have 115 in the saved-game. So it appears like the random attributes don't do anything!

Has anyone seen this before? Or have any idea how I can get random attributes in the ranges that they should occur?

Thanks

[nino33]

when I went to check these players' PA in the saved-game editor (after creating the game), the players would often not have a PA in the range corresponding to the negative value I assigned them

Moreover, I observed that their (supposedly random) potential would be constant across game creations

Hmmm...

Last year I did some significant testing to look at yearly Height/Weight and CA development - so using the UUDB I took a sample of 125 players and did 3 different tests of IIRC 12 years each (http://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/vi ... 110&t=8146)

I just took a look at that data now, and picked five players with a random PA (-9 so their PA should be between 150-180) and checked to see what their PA was each time...

[table][tr][th]NAME[/th][th]TEST 1 PA[/th][th]TEST 2 PA[/th][th]TEST 3 PA[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Carey Price[/td][td]174[/td][td]150[/td][td]151[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Claude Giroux[/td][td]141[/td][td]159[/td][td]153[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Taylor Hall[/td][td]156[/td][td]159[/td][td]157[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Sam Gagner[/td][td]177[/td][td]159[/td][td]172[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Drew Doughty[/td][td]177[/td][td]172[/td][td]167[/td][/tr][/table]

In all cases the PA was within the set range, and the result was different each time...



Regards

[ccmequip]

Thanks for the quick reply

I ran some more tests, and I found out that the randomizing is working with PAs -9 and -8, but not -7 or lower.
Do you have any data on players with PAs of -7 or lower that you could check? It would be greatly appreciated.

[nino33]

Do you have any data on players with PAs of -7 or lower that you could check? It would be greatly appreciated.

The spreadsheet (link above) has such players IIRC...



EDIT - There are three such players...and their PAs all correctly vary and fall within the set range too
[table][tr][th]NAME[/th][th]TEST 1 PA[/th][th]TEST 2 PA[/th][th]TEST 3 PA[/th][/tr]
[tr][td]Al Montoya[/td][td]136[/td][td]125[/td][td]129[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Steve Downie[/td][td]128[/td][td]121[/td][td]119[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]Jaden Schwartz[/td][td]135[/td][td]115[/td][td]122[/td][/tr][/table]