Official 10-11 NHL Eastern Conference Regular Season Thread

[philou21]

Yeah sorry Danny about that I probably forgot to add a couple of words that can completely change the meaning of my post. I just hope he will not be as bad as Bergeron or Savard, he still and got a bright futur at MTL, hope when he come back he will be the same.

[dave1927p]

The league has announced that there will be no fine or suspension for the hit.

yes, lets call the police on the guy and force criminal charges. That'll do the trick.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/3 ... Chara.html


To say Chara meant to do this is simply idiotic. There is simply no hard evidence supporting that "theory". But sure, if you look hard enough you can piece some crazy theory together, just like they did with 9-11 and bush being behind it all. It's ludacris!

He was finishing his check (which was LATE but he didn't charge him) and a freak accident happened. People are overreacting as usual but the injury certainly is the reason and that's fair enough. Should Chara of been suspended? Maybe. But ONLY because of the serverity of the injury. Is that right? No, but that seems to be how the NHL does things. And what happens when another hit like this agains again where the injury is minor to none. Should that player be suspended if chara was? That would just lead to major problems down the line.

These hits happen all the time but a very different end result. I'll say it again, it was just a freak accident that the partion was there and he made contact to it like that. Has anyone seen older Don Cherry Rockem Sockems? There are a couple of these hits on each on but thank god no injurys like this.
In the end i bet you chara feels the worst about all this. I hope Max can comeback. I really do. Because that's all that matters!

[philou21]

The link you posted is absolutely ridiculous, holy cow.

[B. Stinson]

Montreal fans never fail to make me laugh.

They'll now be booing cops on the street for the next several years.

Edit: I just watched the video on YouTube, and to be honest, I don't see a problem. It was certainly an unfortunate outcome, but I don't see any reason to believe it was intentionally harsh. Of course he went for the hit, but it's a bit unrealistic to think that he had planned it out in the mere second or two leading up to the boards. Really, it's no different than that Randy Jones hit on Bergeron - just a routine, hockey-paced situation that ended much worse than it normally does.

I think the real question is where was the padding on that corner? They have some red strips of something, but I hope that's not their padding - it looks really wimpy compared to the normal padding I see on those corners.

[philou21]

Montreal fans never fail to make me laugh.

They'll now be booing cops on the street for the next several years.

LOL I'm ashamed to be in the same province as those "hockey fans". This is absurd at the most point. This is certainly not real hockey fan who are doing this. This is people who think they know hockey and they like the Canadian because everyone talks and like them. Bunch of noobs if you ask me.

[dave1927p]

I hope we'll have a great game between the Habs and the Bruins tonight. I don't want alot of fights like the other game but I certainly want to see a good physic game.

funny reading this comment now...it was a physical game, wasn't it?

LOL I'm ashamed to be in the same province as those "hockey fans". This is absurd at the most point. This is certainly not real hockey fan who are doing this. This is people who think they know hockey and they like the Canadian because everyone talks and like them. Bunch of noobs if you ask me.

Ok, i'm going to say it: I honestly can't tell if your being sarcastic or not...


Anyone seeing michael ignatieff sticking his big nose in this whole thing. Trying to get some more votes. Discusting. Politics has to say out. Sportsnet said something about Air Canada threating to pull out their sponsorship if something isn't done about headshots? Good riddance to them i say. I'm not saying something shouldn't be done, i'm just saying not for those reasons. I don't think any major sport has been influenced as much by sponsors and the media then hockey has these past few years.

[bruins72]

From what I've been reading, Chara's past history factored into him not getting a suspension. In his entire career, he's only been suspended once. That was about 6 years ago for getting the instigator penalty on a fight. That's an automatic suspension.

I've heard all of these stories about people calling the police and Air Canada threatening to pull sponsorship. On one hand, it's nice to see how passionate Montreal fans are about the game but on the other hand, they look like a bunch of whiny babies throwing a tantrum. Everyone in the hockey world agrees that what happened to Pacioretty is horrible. It's just these people that are acting like it's the apocalypse.

[joneboy2000]

I've heard all of these stories about people calling the police and Air Canada threatening to pull sponsorship. On one hand, it's nice to see how passionate Montreal fans are about the game but on the other hand, they look like a bunch of whiny babies throwing a tantrum. Everyone in the hockey world agrees that what happened to Pacioretty is horrible. It's just these people that are acting like it's the apocalypse.

Just what i was thinking, couldn't say it any better

[CeeBee]

Almost as crazy as the Rocket Richard riots back in the 50's except that it was a suspension to the Rocket that set that one off. Of course there have never been problems anywhere else when a team wins the cup or some other such event.

[philou21]

LOL I'm ashamed to be in the same province as those "hockey fans". This is absurd at the most point. This is certainly not real hockey fan who are doing this. This is people who think they know hockey and they like the Canadian because everyone talks and like them. Bunch of noobs if you ask me.

Ok, i'm going to say it: I honestly can't tell if your being sarcastic or not...

Anyone seeing michael ignatieff sticking his big nose in this whole thing. Trying to get some more votes. Discusting. Politics has to say out. Sportsnet said something about Air Canada threating to pull out their sponsorship if something isn't done about headshots? Good riddance to them i say. I'm not saying something shouldn't be done, i'm just saying not for those reasons. I don't think any major sport has been influenced as much by sponsors and the media then hockey has these past few years.

Honestly, I wasn't been sarcastic. I think this way since alot of time. I'm not saying that everyone is like this but the Canadien is such popular here that even people who don't really like hockey that much are acting like they are the god of hockey or that they know eveything about them. Now when things like this happen, they become crazy an act like a bunch of noobs. On the internet and on Tv they make the people in Quebec looking like a bunch of crazy people.

P.S. Ignatieff can go to hell. Politics should stay out of any sports.

From what I've been reading, Chara's past history factored into him not getting a suspension. In his entire career, he's only been suspended once. That was about 6 years ago for getting the instigator penalty on a fight. That's an automatic suspension.

You're right. I really didn't think about that first but that sure helps him not getting suspended.

Almost as crazy as the Rocket Richard riots back in the 50's except that it was a suspension to the Rocket that set that one off. Of course there have never been problems anywhere else when a team wins the cup or some other such event.

Back in those years, hockey was really important for the French Canadian people, the battle against the English was huge in Quebec and when those great hockey players from Quebec started to blow everything in the league the French people were really proud of that and they identified themselve with that. Richard was often mistreated on the ice and the referee let alot of dirty hits past on him, he always needed to defend himself because the english players didn't like the fact that a French Canadian was kicking their butts. I think that's why the people were so **** off when he was suspended and we know how it ended.....Campbell didn't help the cause by coming at MTL to see the game....

[dave1927p]

Seems like no-one is paying attention to kubinas elbow to bolland. No injury i don't think and kubina got a 3 game suspension. That's alot i think.

ye, i didn't think you were being sarcastic phil, but then again i'm sure alot of hab fans are saying something just like that to prove another point...the point of them being out of their minds.

You hear players saying how upset they are about no suspension...well, i find it kinda funny how those are the players who've been suspended in the past for head shots or something...so of course they are upset. They are upset he wasn't suspended when they (or their teammate) were. different cases though.

This whole thing is just a mess....but it will blow over. I hope. the NHL at the very very least to should tell Air Canada to #### off.

And you know what, if he was suspended for two or three games, we'd still see this mess. People would just be saying it's not enough. I'm quite frankly sick of hearing this.

Harper addressed the "problem" as well, but it wasn't to the extent of Inatiatafaif.

[dave1927p]

Bettman is handling this greatly might i add. As much as i hate him, i've gained alot of respect for him the past couple years.

[dave1927p]

Oh, MTL Police is doing a full investigation into this because of the fan outcry. What a joke! Shouldn't they investing the money and time in real crimes. Max pacioretty says he doesn't want that.

Oh and how do i edit a post

[philou21]

Bettman is the reason the league is going down. Despite how I wanted a suspension for Chara you're are totally right, it wouldn't have changed A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G. I think that's where the problem his, the league doesn't care at all.

For the Air Canada thing I'm not sure....Of course Buttman doesn't care he can have everything he want BUT if some other companies started to follow, this could help. Anyway, is Bettman got a contract or he is there until he died or go? We need changes up there, that's obvious, a complete change, everyone out and re-start from 0. Too bad Steve Y already got a job....

By the way, there's no post edit. You can delete him and start a new one.

[Danny]

And you know what, if he was suspended for two or three games, we'd still see this mess. People would just be saying it's not enough. I'm quite frankly sick of hearing this.

That's an excellent point. I wouldn't have minded if he got 2-3 games, don't think that would have been a wrong ruling either. But the outcry would be the same just basically asking for 5+...and if he got 5+ they'd be asking for him to be suspended for the rest of the year.

[dave1927p]

And you know what, if he was suspended for two or three games, we'd still see this mess. People would just be saying it's not enough. I'm quite frankly sick of hearing this.

That's an excellent point. I wouldn't have minded if he got 2-3 games, don't think that would have been a wrong ruling either. But the outcry would be the same just basically asking for 5+...and if he got 5+ they'd be asking for him to be suspended for the rest of the year.

and looking further ahead, a hit very similar like this will happen again. He might not hit the glass partition and may not be injured nearly as bad but people will compare it to this saying Chara got suspended for that play. Why didn't playerX? It would open up a whole can of worms. It certainly does make you wonder if this happened to bostons player by a hab how things would be different too. Would The habs owner and fans still be saying the things he's saying? I hardly doubt it.

[philou21]

It would be like this anywhere if it was another player with another team involved. Wait, maybe not in Phoenix with 10 people per games.

[DJP19]

I'm just waiting for when a Habs players makes a questionable hit and everyones silent. A bunch of hypocrite is what they are.

[B. Stinson]

Don't even get me started on Gary "r-tard" Bettman and the NHL.

All I'm gonna say is that I've lost all hope in them doing anything right as a league. From on-ice calls to league management, I'm prepared for every single one of their decisions to be the wrong one .

[philou21]

I'm just waiting for when a Habs players makes a questionable hit and everyones silent. A bunch of hypocrite is what they are.

Every fans of every team will do it anyway. So everyone is hypocrite.

[CeeBee]

I'm just waiting for when a Habs players makes a questionable hit and everyones silent. A bunch of hypocrite is what they are.

Every fans of every team will do it anyway. So everyone is hypocrite.

I'd agree though I'd say it more like " every team has some fans who will do it anyway, so yes, those fans will surely be hypocrites." I'd like to think that most fans are have enough common sense to at least try to see both sides of every issue. It's not always easy to be objective but a true fan(not fanatic) should strive to be like that, IMHO.

[philou21]

least try to see both sides of every issue. It's not always easy to be objective but a true fan(not fanatic) should strive to be like that, IMHO.

That's exactly what I thought. You really find the best word in "fanatic" when I talked about some of them in Quebec, that's why there's so much reaction here.

[DJP19]

I was watching TSN and a fan with a bruins cap even said it was a dirty hit, but your right bruins fans are staying silent even though they were also upset over the savers hit a while ago. I personally don't like Montreal so that make me a bit biased

[Loosie]

I was watching TSN and a fan with a bruins cap even said it was a dirty hit, but your right bruins fans are staying silent even though they were also upset over the savers hit a while ago. I personally don't like Montreal so that make me a bit biased

Not only was it a fan in a Bruins can, it was a 'Habs fan' in Montreal in a Bruins cap. I'm surprised he's still alive I am surprised that there was no suspension for it. But some of the aftermath is getting ridiculous. Police investigations, sponsers threating to pull out (this now apperently includes VIA as well). It'll be interesting to hear what Don Cherry has to say about it tonight on HNIC, because you KNOW he will have his say.

Also interesting to note is Joe Thornton's comments. For those that didn't see them he essentially didn't weigh in on whether or not there should have been a suspension, but basically accused the league of going light on the Bruins. And not becuase of Colie Campbell's kid either because I believe he was citing examples from before Greg Campbell was playing for Boston.

[dave1927p]

i think don cherry will say what most of us here are saying...how this whole thing has gotten way out of control, sponsers can go away if they don't like it, politics stay out etc etc. oh and he'll talk about the Habs owner being an idiot of all else. How the guy is forcing blame away from him and his arena and putting towards violence in hockey ... gotta love the world we live in.

"Someone has to go down for this" is just the mindset. Which i guess is human nature but why blown out of proportion so much? I'd have to say the media is the reason. Everywhere i look now is this hit. Enough already. I think they enjoy showing it or something. Sickening.