RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

hockeynoob · Post by **hockeynoob** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:01 pm

I'm having a problem when I sign a player from free agency, then qualify them for RFA status but leave them unsigned. They go onto my unsigned prospects list BUT they still count against the reserve list. However, this doesn't apply for draftedplayers >signed>RFA.

Any way to fix this?

whatwasthat · Post by **whatwasthat** » Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:40 pm

I'm sorry if this is off topic but how do you qualify players for RFA status?

23qwerty · Post by **23qwerty** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:29 am

whatwasthat wrote:I'm sorry if this is off topic but how do you qualify players for RFA status?

Offer them a contract.

stone169 · Post by **stone169** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:07 pm

You can have 50 contracted players on your team including another 30 unsigned prospects or unsigned RFAs as long as you have retained their rights.

hockeynoob · Post by **hockeynoob** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:58 pm

stone169 wrote:You can have 50 contracted players on your team including another 30 unsigned prospects or unsigned RFAs as long as you have retained their rights.

yes but I didnt sign my RFAs, other teams (ahl/rsl/sel) teams did. They shouldn't count towards my 50 player limit should they?

Post by **CeeBee** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:21 pm

I'm not sure what the rule is IRL but the game seems to count an unsigned RFA towards the 50 man limit, whereas an unsigned prospect doesn't count. I'm not sure how long this situation would go on for though as I've always had to clear up the spot by trading rights or releasing the rights by the start of the next season

whatwasthat · Post by **whatwasthat** » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:30 pm

I'm still confused. I've tried searching how RFA works but I still don't understand.

Players who are no longer considered "entry-level" but do not qualify as unrestricted free agents become restricted free agents when their contracts expire.

When does a player not qualify as an unrestricted free agent?
Let me give an example, a player on my roster had a contract and it ended but he doesn't qualify as a unrestricted free agent so I receive the rights to this player?
I also want to know how long does RFA rights last?

stone169 · Post by **stone169** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:16 am

hockeynoob wrote:
stone169 wrote:You can have 50 contracted players on your team including another 30 unsigned prospects or unsigned RFAs as long as you have retained their rights.
yes but I didnt sign my RFAs, other teams (ahl/rsl/sel) teams did. They shouldn't count towards my 50 player limit should they?

If you offerred them a qualifying offer then you retain their rights. They may not sign the qualifying offer and can sign with teams in other leagues, but you would still retain their rights. And those rights count against the roster rules. You have to remember that you can have up to 50 signed players along with unsigned players that you hold rights to totalling no more than 80 players in total.

stone169 · Post by **stone169** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:21 am

whatwasthat wrote:I'm still confused. I've tried searching how RFA works but I still don't understand.

Players who are no longer considered "entry-level" but do not qualify as unrestricted free agents become restricted free agents when their contracts expire.
When does a player not qualify as an unrestricted free agent?
Let me give an example, a player on my roster had a contract and it ended but he doesn't qualify as a unrestricted free agent so I receive the rights to this player?
I also want to know how long does RFA rights last?

The game usually tells you 6 months ahead of time when a player's contract is coming up. It will also tell if they are an RFA (Restricted Free Agent) or a UFA (Unrestricted Free Agent). If they are an RFA you can qualify them by offerring them a qualifying amount, which you will see when you are in negotiations with them. One thing I've noticed with the game is that if I offer them a 1 year qualifying offer and they refuse it, I'll retain their rights for one year. So if it's a player that I really want to keep, I usually up the qualifying offer to 3 years so I'll retain their rights for longer.

y2jericho · Post by **y2jericho** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:36 pm

Something that I find really annoying with RFA's is when you give some players qualifying offers, and then on July 1 or shortly there after they become UFA's. For example, I had a high rated create a player, who didn't want a new contract, but I wanted to keep him, so I offered him a major increase, well beyond what was needed, he of course turned it down, and then became unrestricted on July 1, and then signs for way way less with another team. If that was how it worked in real life, then Drew Doughty would have gone UFA this past summer, when he hadn't yet signed with the Kings.

This game using any database does this with some players, and yet other players with qualified offers stay on with your team as they should. Has anyone had this type of problem before.

Richie Daggers Crime · Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:03 am

Are you sure your offers are meeting the qualifying value? You don't just offer a contract, you have to offer a certain amount. The player's info will tell you if they need to be qualified, and that will go away once they are.

Also, you have to do this well in advance of July 1st. The player has to refuse the contract in order for the qualification to register, and this can take a week or more. If you want to qualify players, do it way ahead of time.

One more thing, the amount of years you offer has no bearing on how long you hold a player's rights if they refuse the offer and you don't resign them.

y2jericho · Post by **y2jericho** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:19 am

Well as I said in my post I offered well more then the percentage increase required and well before July 1st.

stone169 · Post by **stone169** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:35 pm

y2jericho wrote:Something that I find really annoying with RFA's is when you give some players qualifying offers, and then on July 1 or shortly there after they become UFA's. For example, I had a high rated create a player, who didn't want a new contract, but I wanted to keep him, so I offered him a major increase, well beyond what was needed, he of course turned it down, and then became unrestricted on July 1, and then signs for way way less with another team. If that was how it worked in real life, then Drew Doughty would have gone UFA this past summer, when he hadn't yet signed with the Kings.

This game using any database does this with some players, and yet other players with qualified offers stay on with your team as they should. Has anyone had this type of problem before.

I've seen this happen before with certain RFAs where you lose their rights about a week after free agency starts. It doesn't happen with all of them. I'd like to know about it as well.

Post by **CeeBee** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:56 pm

Bumping an old thread. With the newest(5.0) db I just had 7 Qualified RFA's become UFA's on July 2nd. They were all qualified well in advance and offered well over the qualifing amount. Also they all showed up on the warning lists you get 3 months and 1 week in advance as qualified. I know it's too late for me but it might help someone else to avoid losing good prospects. I would also appreciate any info on the subject as to why this might be happening?

Post by **Manimal** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:18 pm

Sorry, but I have no idea why this happens

Post by **CeeBee** » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:13 pm

I miscounted... Actually had 8

So far 7 have re-signed with me starting with the least desirable. I was on pins and needles for awhile and still stand to lose the best of the 8.

Overall I'm pretty lucky tho. My AHL team is thankful too.... would have lost almost half the team

Post by **archibalduk** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:21 pm

Are we talking about youngish players here? Do you have any examples?

Post by **CeeBee** » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:57 pm

I'm long past the occasion

but as I recollect they were all young..... most guys that were finishing there first 3 year contract so between the ages of 21 and 23, depending when they were signed. I think a couple were 24-27 and getting closer to UFA status. I started a new game cause I didn't like the way the ECHL was set-up with 3 of the teams being primary affiliates(they just wipe out the opposition so I put them back in the AHL with a shared team) and my ECHL being a shared team so I fixed things in the pre-game ed and started over. I'm just into February and not needing the CSD patch anymore but I have signed all but one RFA.

RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted

Re: RFA/unsigned showing up as contracted