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Good Enforcers?

Post by SeanSmash13 »

Hey folks,

so I'm looking for a decent/good FORWARD enforcer who is positionally respectable if possible? or just more enforcers... I only know Raitus Ivanans, Derek Boogard, George Parros, and George Laraque. I usually have one forward set to fight(Parros or Laraque, although this game, Boogard), and one defenseman, usually I like to use Sean O'Donnell or Matt Greene. I know O'Donnell isn't exactly an enforcer, but he isn't afraid to throw down either... and Matt Greene is just a big body who hits well and is strong but doesn't have potential aboutve 3rd pairing D-man, so he is no big loss in a pentalty.

My problem with the forward Enforcers: they don't have reasonable skill for me, I set my lines to all have equal ice time to make sure my prospects play enough to develop, so even with an enforcer on the 4th line, his skill drops the line he is on usually to be poor both defensively and offensively... So I'd at least like an enforcer who is respectable as a player... Like a 10 for pokecheck and positioning, or a 10 for stickhandling and passing... just not a liability.

Any suggestions? Even so, just throw out your enforcer it will help my future games.

And yes I am a homer, I know Kings & Ducks players a lot better than the other 28 teams, so offer away.

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Post by sjsharkz »

Well on my Sharks game I use Jody Shelley, I've had him on the 4th line mostly and he usually puts up 10+ points, even had a little over 20 points! While not a super skater, he has decent stats for an enforcer.

Also I like to use Mitch Fritz, just because of his name :P and he is quite large and I've even had him on the all rookie team one Year...I found that quite funny.

Others I have tried that are good Colton Orr, Ryan Hollweg (though not a heavyweight) Chris Neil is also a handy player though at 1m is a bit expensive to use as an enforcer. Rob Davison is alright too but I don't like to use defenseman as enforcers.

I've heard some people like using Godard. But I usually have Shelley and then develop Fritz until Shelley retires or isn't filling his role in the team.
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Post by SeanSmash13 »

thank you, yeah Chris Neil is a bit (carey)Pricey for an enforcer but does have some definite skill. The guy I like best is Ryan Hollweg, well rounded enough not to be a liability, and very cheap(525k). Fortunately he's headed to free agency in a month(july 08, Kings game) so I'll definitely pick him up. a big :thup: for the response.
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Post by sjsharkz »

No worries mate :)

Chris Neil is good because you can use him for spot duty on the second line. My only problem with Hollweg is he is too small to fight the heavyweights....Plus his attributes are a little to much compared to real life.

Colton Orr develops nicely aswell.
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Post by SeanSmash13 »

oh yeah Colton Orr is another good option,but in my game NYR is re-signing him right now(offered a contract) so I prolly won't get him untraded and I'd rather not trade for an enforcer. Have you ever successfully groomed an Enforcer from draft day to career?
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Post by sjsharkz »

I rarely see a decent enough enforcer to draft, so the closest I've gotten to developing one is Mitch Fritz, he is a huge man, and he had decent attributes, but cannot skate so I just put him on an intense skating schedule and I had him fill in on Thorntons line and he put up 30 points while up there, so he proved he can play.
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Post by selne »

Another good one is Donald Brashear. He wins almost every fight in this game.
He is not the youngest but in his final years still a threat. :cry:

Maybe you should consider to match lines so that you have your 4th line against the opponent's 4th. That way your enforcers will play an avg. of 8 minutes and will face some other enforcers more than talented players. 8-)
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Post by LoXish »

I don't even bother with an enforcer... I roll 4 offensive lines and give them all equal playing time.
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Post by Franck »

Speaking of enforcers, it seems like you can only have 2 players in your team set as allowed to fight at a time, been trying to have Dingman, Betts, Hollweg and Gaustad set to allowed but everytime I check their settings again only two of them are set as allowed. :-?
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Post by SeanSmash13 »

LoXish: I assume your results are just as good without an enforcer as with?

Franck: I just set 5 to be allowed and/or encouraged, and it stuck and were allowed to in game, and after the game it was still set to fight.
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Post by thunderbug »

SeaSmash I've done it both ways. It all depends on the style you like to play and how deep you are.
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Post by TheBigM »

I'm using John Tripp in my game. He's a nice defensive player and seems to hold his own in the fighting department. I set him as an aggressive hitter and his average rating is very good for a fourth liner (7.5+).

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Post by LoXish »

SeanSmash13 wrote:LoXish: I assume your results are just as good without an enforcer as with?

Franck: I just set 5 to be allowed and/or encouraged, and it stuck and were allowed to in game, and after the game it was still set to fight.
More or less,

Higher scoring games (on both sides, even with Luongo, Lungqvist or MAF, they won't be winning the Vezina) -- it's not just an enforcer thing, I just like to play a very offensive game.
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Post by CrockerNHL »

Chris Dingman is a man! :-D He is a 3rd or 4th liner with decent PK skills and costs you only about $500K p/y.
Dingo fights and Dingo scores too...:fight:
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Post by Franck »

Gaustad can fight in the game and he's capable of bringing home some Selke trophies aswell. :thup:
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Post by matt44 »

Dingman is the best in terms of output, but I like to have him on the ice as he's a decent 2-way forwards, escpecially on a checking line. I use Scott Parker, comes dirt cheap, wins most of his fights and does ok on the PK too.

Plus...........he's the Sherrif!! ;)
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Post by cdnsk8tr »

i like to use boogard because he has decent stats although hes not much in the skating department. Odd though in my one game playing on my fourth line he had about 30 points while being second in pims so apparently he does have some offensive flair in him. the two years before he had 20+ points as well
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Post by deathknot »

Boogyman in my game is about to break the record for PIMs in a single season, he might reach 600 PIMs easy... unless i switch over to my other forward who is more of a skilled forward.. ummmm do you think i could train boogyman into a defenceman spot... not like i'd want to kill my killer d tho. i have 4 top 10 defenceman and 2 good up and comers... meaning i have a lacky pricey forwards... my highest paid forward is herrik zetterberg at 2.75m. most are 450-990.. all my cap is put into d and goalies
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Post by Seca501 »

Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond!
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Post by The Hutch »

I control the Canucks and the Maple Leafs in my game. Chris Dingman has been an excellent enforcer for Vancouver, while Todd Fedoruk has been doing a very good job for Toronto.
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Post by madball »

The one's i've had most success with are Brian McGrattan, Jody Shelley, Derek Boogaard, Colton Orr. Although I did edit Mirasty, Tremblay, Cormier and MacIntyre in various franchises just coz I like my enforcers and those four are either never in the game or not even really AHL calibre.
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Post by binchnunker »

In my recent game I'm encouraging Darcy Hordichuk to fight...

on 4th Line, 19GP, 1G 4A, 336 PIM, +2 and a 7.37 AVR
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Post by MacKenzieGilmore »

John Tripp is someone I often use as my enforcer. he has descent offensice attributes and is a good fighter
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Post by matt44 »

Its a fine line between getting realistic PIMS/Fight ratio to getting 17pts every game.

Currently got Scott Parker & Kip Brennan on my 4th line and trying to find the correct balance.
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Post by mulla14 »

Eric Cairns!! I love this guy i really do. stats wise he might as well be invisible to be fair but since ive signed him and had him beserk and hitting and fighting i haveny lost in about 10 games and his rating in very game has been 8 except 9 in one and 7 in another1 i play him as 3rd line defense man!
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