2009 NHL Free Agency Frenzy & Offseason Deals discussion

Post by **philou21** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:27 pm

I would take this risk because if Zubov is 100% healty he is always a great player. I really like him it's sad to see him leave.

But you know, is going to play in is country.

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:19 am

Sorry I didn't reply to this sooner but it's with some rumours not actual news just yet. The Stralman deal seems like a really good pick up for the Flames might be a second line defensive pairing in about 2 or 3 years maybe a first pairing if Dion or Bouwmeester jump ship. Still very solid without giving up alot.

Also the Bolts are in talks with Alex Tanguay as well as Petr Sykora. The Bolts freed up $2.33 million over the next 3 years by releasing Vaclav Prospal earlier in the week. Tanguay took a real nose dive after leaving Colorado 3rd line probably. And Sykora IMO is a probably a 3rd liner maybe 2nd with the Bolts. It's really weird how Sykora is still a UFA considering he's still a good player and is only 33.

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:32 am

Well on Zubov he might turn out like Jagr did this year get in really great shape on the much larger ice surface and possibly make a comeback to the NHL thought I don't really see him doing that it's always a small glimmer of hope.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:52 pm

BaerXIII wrote:Well on Zubov he might turn out like Jagr did this year get in really great shape on the much larger ice surface and possibly make a comeback to the NHL thought I don't really see him doing that it's always a small glimmer of hope.

Doubt that. Zubov will be 41 by the time his contract in the KHL will run out.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:51 pm

The Blackhawks are again being questioned over contracts. This time Marian Hossa's deal is being investigated.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=286333

Hypnotist · Post by **Hypnotist** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:32 pm

They have a spotlight on the retirement loophole. Although it certainly seems to be bending the rules, I don't see how they've broken any. The DiPietro, Zetterberg, Datsyuk & Franzen (& I'm sure there are others) deals haven't been looked at. The CBA says that these deals are legal so they should be vaild. I'm sure the hole will be closed in the next CBA. Simple way of doing things: Cap hit = that year's salary

***EDIT*** I read the NHL's press release. The NHL is investigating whether the Hawks and Hossa discussed his retiring prior to the contract's expiration. This is the violation of the cap & CBA that they have their panties in a twist about. Maybe Tallon is feeding this to the league as retribution for his firing. Somebody dropping a dime is about the only way they could prove this happened and thus nullifying the deal and bringing sanctions against the Hawks.

selne · Post by **selne** » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:17 am

Hypnotist wrote:.. Simple way of doing things: Cap hit = that year's salary..

Sounds reasonable to me!

The only problem is that most players want the money now, not a few years later. It could be very difficult for the managers to find a good balance negotiating contracts and keeping potential UFAs.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:02 pm

I don't know how true this is. But The Sharks are apparently close to making a deal with Ottawa for Dany Heatley. But they need a 3rd team involved... Could be an interesting trade...

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=286562

Post by **Jypfan92** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:35 am

Teppo Numminen retires

. He said to Finnish magazine "Suomen Kuvalehti" that he can't play full season anymore cause it's very hard in his age and last spring he was very tired and he skates much slower than in autumn. So Numminen wouldn't play in Vancouver Olympics at 2010.

That's very, very, very, very sad

, but i understand his reason of retiring.

bruins72 · Post by **bruins72** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 8:21 pm

I guess Roenick is supposed to be announcing his retirement too.

EDIT:

I also just read that the Rangers walked away from Zherdev's arbitration award, making him a UFA.

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:11 am

getzlaf15 wrote:
BaerXIII wrote:Well on Zubov he might turn out like Jagr did this year get in really great shape on the much larger ice surface and possibly make a comeback to the NHL thought I don't really see him doing that it's always a small glimmer of hope.
Doubt that. Zubov will be 41 by the time his contract in the KHL will run out.

Still small glimmer of hope since Chelios still wants to play and he's like 47. So compared to that 41 seems reasonable

.

Also on the Zherdev front why the hell would the Rangers walk away from him he's going to be an amazing player maybe on the Lecavailer level not quite Ovechkin/Crosby but still someone with the skills you build towards the future with.

Post by **philou21** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:21 am

I'm not sure but i've heard that Zherdev got a hell of a character, not sure if it's true. Plus, for 58 pts, 3.9 is ''reasonable'', so i'm sure he would find a great place to play maybe at 3.5 per year.

Hypnotist · Post by **Hypnotist** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:24 am

The issue with Zherdev is ambition and desire, not skill. Zherdev can score a hat trick or be -3 and no points. The problem is you never know which Zherdev is going to show up. He's a lot like Fedorov (the Original Enigmatic Russian) was.

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:14 am

Hypnotist wrote:The issue with Zherdev is ambition and desire, not skill. Zherdev can score a hat trick or be -3 and no points. The problem is you never know which Zherdev is going to show up. He's a lot like Fedorov (the Original Enigmatic Russian) was.

I guess but if I we're a team I'd take the gamble on. Hell if Jeff Finger can get $3.5 million and no potential there should be a few teams willing to line up for him. Would like to see him land with the Caps be maybe a second line right winger.

And Patrick Eaves signed a one-year deal with the Red Wings $500,000.

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:54 am

And also I forgot to add this to my last post that Jeremy Roenick is set to retire. Thursday is the press conference where they will announce it.

Post by **Jypfan92** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:43 pm

Brendan Shanahan make new contract with New Jersey Devils.

That's nice that he continues, cause Teppo Numminen and Jeremy Roenick retires and cause Sergei Zubov goes to KHL (hope that he come back to NHL).

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:25 am

Jypfan92 wrote:Brendan Shanahan make new contract with New Jersey Devils. That's nice that he continues, cause Teppo Numminen and Jeremy Roenick retires and cause Sergei Zubov goes to KHL (hope that he come back to NHL).

It's awesome he'll be back for another season and at least this time the deals done before their half way through the season, now if only we can get Mats Sundin to make up his mind.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:32 pm

Rumours are that the Ducks have traded a conditional pick to get Goaltender Justin Pogge from Toronto. The pick being decided dependant on Pogges success.

I like Pogge, he looks like a future top goalie, and the Ducks desperately need one of them, J-P Levasseur is our only prospective goalie, and he's not set the world alight.

Post by **McQwak** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:46 pm

Rumours also say that Theoren Fleury is coming back to NHL. But he needs approvement by Bettman... Fleury said he was inspired by Claude Lemieux.
I'm looking forward to see him skating on the NHL rinks.

Post by **philou21** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:10 pm

Patrick Kane and is brother been arrest for steal and beat a taxi driver. darn what he is thinking? Maybe Sergei Kostitsyn bad influence.

More details to come.....

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:42 pm

philou21 wrote:Patrick Kane and is brother been arrest for steal and beat a taxi driver. darn what he is thinking? Maybe Sergei Kostitsyn bad influence. More details to come.....

Most people would say to that 'Oh he's a bad influence on the other Blackhawks and a bad person.' but in my opinion it just makes him bad ass

Kane Arrest

And TSN during sportscentre said it was over $0.20

Hypnotist · Post by **Hypnotist** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:18 am

It probably won't amount to much, but if he gets a felony conviction it could put a serious damper on the Hawks season and possibly long term future. Kane may run into issues getting work visas to play in Canada with a felony record.

BaerXIII · Post by **BaerXIII** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:57 am

Hypnotist wrote:It probably won't amount to much, but if he gets a felony conviction it could put a serious damper on the Hawks season and possibly long term future. Kane may run into issues getting work visas to play in Canada with a felony record.

I doubt it would amount to that as well. If anything he'll probably pay medical, punitive, and replace the glasses. But it is a bad situation should he be convicted.

Post by **philou21** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:56 am

Now i hope he would face it like a man an accept what's gonna happen to him. He did a stupid thing, i'm ok with this, everyone did once, but just take the consequences.

Post by **getzlaf15** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:15 pm

The Pogge to Anaheim deal is confirmed on the Ducks and Mapes websites. They haven't disclosed the terms of the conditional draft pick though. Which could make it a good deal for the Ducks, or bad of course.